part-exchanged vehicle, any continued liability for repairs?

Mud · 12 Apr 2011 at 11:53

I've just part-exchanged one car for another. I paid the balance, signed the paperwork, posted off the V5C, and drove my new car home. The used car dealership now tell me the car I exchanged needs work, saying it needs 4 new injectors. The part-exchanged car was a 206 with the HDi 90 (diesel) engine, and admittedly it did run rough at idle...though peugeot said it was fine*. The car was serviced and MOT'd at peugeot after the warranty ran out and still no mention of the rough idle. The used car dealership is asking for £250 to stop bothering me. Question is, do I have a moral and/or legal debt to cover the work? It all seems sketchy to me, obviously the dealer thinks I've willfully misled him, and I think the dealer is asking for money that may or may not be reasonable for work that may or may not need doing that I may or may not be liable for. For a start, 4 injectors sounds highly dubious, would it even turn over let alone return 40+mpg? Sounds like a lack of due diligence on the part of the used car dealer to me, it's hard to feel sorry for a used car salesman...

*they might have said this since it was bought (used) from the dealership so at the time they'd have had to have done the work under warranty.

vanandjuanunited · 12 Apr 2011 at 11:56

Tell them to do one.
If they didn't check it fully before accepting it - hard luck

kae2 · 12 Apr 2011 at 11:56

Tell him to do one, unbelievable!

DM · 12 Apr 2011 at 11:57

Tell them to jog on.

HamZilla · 12 Apr 2011 at 11:58

Tell him its karma.

NeverWinter · 12 Apr 2011 at 11:58

If you had sold the car privately would you expect to pay for repairs? No. Tell 'em where to go.

4T5 · 12 Apr 2011 at 11:58

40+ mpg from a 206 HDi is Crap.
I s'pose this all comes down to how you feel about it & what sort of deal you walked away with. If it's bothering you then tell teh garage that you'll split it with them & give them 125 quid which is more than enough for the injectors & they can use there own mechanics to fit so no labour charge.

NeverWinter · 12 Apr 2011 at 11:58

HamZilla said:
Tell him its karma.

CARma?

DM · 12 Apr 2011 at 12:01

4T5 said:
40+ mpg from a 206 HDi is Crap.
I s'pose this all comes down to how you feel about it & what sort of deal you walked away with. If it's bothering you then tell teh garage that you'll split it with them & give them 125 quid which is more than enough for the injectors & they can use there own mechanics to fit so no labour charge.

Nah thats no good, he part exed it with a dealer, they need to suck it up surely, feeling bad got nothing to do with it.

Spikey · 12 Apr 2011 at 12:02

I'd tell them to jog on!

4T5 · 12 Apr 2011 at 12:03

DM said:
Nah thats no good, he part exed it with a dealer, they need to suck it up surely, feeling bad got nothing to do with it.

It bothers some people inside though mate, Me I reckon it's perfect for a Lol Eggface next time he phones.

Cuchulain · 12 Apr 2011 at 12:04

Mud said:
I've just part-exchanged one car for another. I paid the balance, signed the paperwork, posted off the V5C, and drove my new car home. The used car dealership now tell me the car I exchanged needs work, saying it needs 4 new injectors. The part-exchanged car was a 206 with the HDi 90 (diesel) engine, and admittedly it did run rough at idle...though peugeot said it was fine*. The car was serviced and MOT'd at peugeot after the warranty ran out and still no mention of the rough idle. The used car dealership is asking for £250 to stop bothering me. Question is, do I have a moral and/or legal debt to cover the work? It all seems sketchy to me, obviously the dealer thinks I've willfully misled him, and I think the dealer is asking for money that may or may not be reasonable for work that may or may not need doing that I may or may not be liable for. For a start, 4 injectors sounds highly dubious, would it even turn over let alone return 40+mpg? Sounds like a lack of due diligence on the part of the used car dealer to me, it's hard to feel sorry for a used car salesman...

*they might have said this since it was bought (used) from the dealership so at the time they'd have had to have done the work under warranty.

You essentially sold the car privately as you're not a dealer, irrespective of who you sold it to it's the buyers problem, not yours. They should've checked the car over properly before accepting it.

Mud · 12 Apr 2011 at 12:05

My thoughts exactly, he's dressing it up as a moral debt but it seems like **** - for the record £250 is cheap for 4 injectors (they're ~£120 each) so he already thinks that's going splits...

4T5 · 12 Apr 2011 at 12:06

Just tell him to Jog on then & do his job properly next time.

DM · 12 Apr 2011 at 12:07

4T5 said:
It bothers some people inside though mate, Me I reckon it is perfect for a Lol Eggface next time he phones.

Yea i suppose, but in this case i dont think he needs to feel bad, i mean the thought of ringing someone moaning about a part ex just wouldnt even enter my head.

DM · 12 Apr 2011 at 12:09

Mud said:
My thoughts exactly, he's dressing it up as a moral debt but it seems like **** - for the record £250 is cheap for 4 injectors (they're ~£120 each) so he already thinks that's going splits...

Listen take some advice, car dealers have no morals, **** him he needs to learn how to spot a lemon.

Tell him you aint charging him for this valuable lesson and wave him goodbye.

dekez · 12 Apr 2011 at 12:12

Cuchulain said:
You essentially sold the car privately as you're not a dealer, irrespective of who you sold it to it's the buyers problem, not yours. They should've checked the car over properly before accepting it.

Completely, the dealer is effectively saying, I'm a crap dealer and don't check cars properly, if anything I'd be worried that there may be problems with your new car.

scratch · 12 Apr 2011 at 12:12

Did they specifically ask you if the car had any known faults? If not then you've done nothing wrong. If they did ask and you answered "no" then you've still done nothing wrong as Peugeot told you the car was fine.

Tell them tough luck, if they're not happy then they should have inspected the car more thoroughly before going ahead with the deal.

Philz0r · 12 Apr 2011 at 12:15

my friend part ex'ed a 04 plate volvo v70 R (the 300 bhp model) for his current car.

the dealer took my friends volvo for a 15 minute drive and took it.

anyways 2 months later the dealer rings him and says one of the 4wd wheels isnt working and he wants £500 for it to be fixed. (my friend didnt pay it)

not only that but when my friend bought his car, the seller forgot to put the tax in the window and my friend forgot to look. when he got home he rang the dealer and asked him to post the disk and he wouldn't.

jap performance uk

L33 · 12 Apr 2011 at 12:18

I had a similar incident with a dealer a while back. Laugh and tell him if he wishes to persue that he can take you to court. The judge would laugh equally as hard.
Sale of goods act, he bought a used car from a private seller. 'Buyer beware', he bought it sold as seen and had every chance to inspect or refuse it before agreeing on a deal.
What a ****. Hope nobody else has ever fallen for his con.