Who here believes in UFO'S?

[Muzza1875]

I don't believe in ghosts, demons, God, Heaven or hell.
However I'm open minded and haven't ruled out they're existence.
Ufo's on the other hand i do believe in! and i believe i seen what may have been a ufo a few years ago.
When i was 15/16 i was doing allot of running and exercise trying to prepare myself for joining the army, it was winter and i only got the chance to run at night because of school and work.One night i was out running and had stopped to catch my breath 3/4 of the way back home.I gazed up at the night sky which i sometimes do to see what appeared to be a star, except this one seemed to be moving, so i then assumed it to be a plane/satellite. I kept watching for a couple minutes to then see this bright object stop in a instance and zoom off in the other direction at an incredible speed until i could no longer see it.I don't think it could have been anything else as we humans would never bee able to pull anything like that off with today's technology.

Since then i have read and watched everything and anything to do with Ufo's , i also read and seen allot of books/documentaries about the end of the world and the existence of other dimensions which is why i am open minded about the existence of ghosts and the supernatural.
My parents and other families think i am mad, most of my friends do too but that doesn't stop me from trying to convert them to believers when ever i get the chance.My brother and a few close friends do believe in Ufo's and sometimes when on a night out we sit for hours talking about stuff to do with Ufo's and anything similar instead of chasing girls!
I also believe that Ancient aliens may have had a hand in the advancement of the human race ( sounds nuts i know but the evidence is overwhelming!)

Ten most significant ufo events and anomalies in history!
(in no particular order)


1 .Battle of Los Angeles - Also known as The Great Los Angeles Air Raid, is the name given by contemporary sources to the rumored enemy attack and subsequent anti-aircraft artillery barrage which took place from late February 24 to early February 25, 1942 over Los Angeles, California.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Los_Angeles

2.The rendlesham forest incident - Involving multiple USAF Personnel including a Colonel in Suffolk England.It was believed the base contained nuclear weapons at the time.

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicrend.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r35q0KQMXOg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2CJY2VyCfo

3 .Foo Fighters - The term foo fighter was used by Allied aircraft pilots in World War II to describe various UFOs or mysterious aerial phenomena seen in the skies over both the European and Pacific Theater of Operations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter

4. 2004 Mexican UFO Incident - A drug-smuggling air patrol recorded on infrared camera what some claimed to be UFOs. The footage was released by Jaime Maussan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOQoy0-Mhgs

5. The Phoenix Lights - The Phoenix Lights (sometimes referred to as the "lights over Phoenix") were a series of widely sighted optical phenomena (generally unidentified flying objects) that occurred in the skies over the U.S. states of Arizona and Nevada, and the Mexican state of Sonora on March 13, 1997.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights

6. Belgian UFO wave - Mass sighting of large, silent, low-flying black triangles, which were tracked by multiple NATO radar and jet interceptors, and investigated by Belgium's military. Photographic evidence exists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_UFO_wave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDPxJxFNlvE

7. 1976 Tehran UFO incident - UFO disabled the electronic equipment of two F-4 interceptor aircraft, along with ground control equipment. The event is well documented in the U.S. DIA report. The Iranian generals involved in the incident stated object was extraterrestrial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Tehran_UFO_incident

8. The ******* Prophecies - A wave of sightings of a winged humanoid is reported to be connected to other mysterious events including sightings of UFOs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_*******_Prophecies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP4P7VPx2zM

9. 1952 Washington D.C. UFO incident - A series of sightings in July 1952 accompanied radar contacts at three separate airports in the Washington area. The sightings made front page headlines around the nation, and ultimately lead to the formation of the Robertson Panel by the CIA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington_D.C._UFO_incident
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTZ7O9cfpPQ

10. Nuremberg mass sighting - The sighting is described a battle in the sky that occurred for about 1 hour, and ended with a large crash with smoke outside the city (as depicted), thus it doesn't appear to be a simple atmospheric phenomenon ("sun dog" or parhelion). A News notice (an early form of newspaper) and engraving was published in Nuremberg describing the event and is stored in the Zurich Library Wickiana collection (see reference).

http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case486.htm

Other ufo related material:

Ufo's nearly started ww3! - http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread644797/pg1

The ancient astronaut theory - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronauts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qtjI8eGtvM


Dan akroyd on ufo's - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8993422112864357113#

Fast walkers - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8706810565840617123#


Brilliant Ufo documentory - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8285709939745631584#

NASA UFO DODGING US MISSILE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZmtVT4plGA

UFO Sightings by Astronauts
http://www.syti.net/UFOSightings.html

 

[Robbo]

I believe in UFOs, but not extraterrestrials.

I'm sure they are out there, but they aren't here yet.

 

[Biohazard]

What's rypt's opinion on UFO's & religion?

 

[Robbo]

What's rypt's opinion on UFO's & religion?

Do you really want it?

Really?

 

[bhavv]

I do believe in UFOs.

Given the size of the universe and the potential of other intelligent, and even more advanced lifeforms, I do believe that there has to be some other life out there with the capability of far superior space exploration to what we have.

 

[Biohazard]

Do you really want it?

Really?

I'm scared to tread without it

 

[Glaucus]

I believe in UFOs, but not extraterrestrials.

I'm sure they are out there, but they aren't here yet.

This, also battle of Los Angeles was just trigger happy people and following their own search lights.

Ufos are a combination of natural events, military and people not understanding what they are seeing.

 

[GTAMADDOG]

Open minded really. I met a guy a couple of weeks ago who has his own website dedicated to UFOs he's caught on camera and things other people have seen. He kind of lost my belief in what he was saying when he went as far to say he'd seen an E.T., he was able to describe it in quite a lot of detail which I almost started laughing at because it seemed so ridiculous. At the end of the day anyone could make up something they had 'seen' and describe it in lots of detail and without photographic evidence you can't really say they're lying or anything. This guy didn't look like he was adverse to some of the wacky-baccy though.

 

[Muzza1875]

This, also battle of Los Angeles was just trigger happy people and following their own search lights.

Ufos are a combination of natural events, military and people not understanding what they are seeing.

One particular ufo incident involving two active usaf air bases during the cold war was the Rendlesham forest incident.
Multiple Air force personnel ,including a colonel seen Ufo's on three consecutive nights in a row, some of the guard at the base were meters away from the craft on one particular night and could see hieroglyphs marked on it.
These men were highly trained to recognize Any and all friendly and enemy aircraft but could not identify what they seen before them.

 

[Castiel]

What's rypt's opinion on UFO's & religion?

That it's all a fairytale, however I suspect that he believes in Extraterrestrials visiting the Earth.

 

[Glaucus]

Even colonel wouldn't know top secret craft, just because they are trained pilots does not mean they Know what they are looking at or are not prone to image errors in the brain, like the rest of use.

Conspiracy sites miss all theologic and just go straight for the jugular.

It's also funny how they all are related and come after books and things like the stealth plane.also united states military plans for craft supposedly never built that look surpassingly the same even down to rough dimensions as to what people have seen.

Mistreating the wiki leak of that incidence shows they cant even stick to the same story, the mod has released the files and they agree with with the mod originally said.

 

[Castiel]

I do believe in UFOs.

Given the size of the universe and the potential of other intelligent, and even more advanced lifeforms, I do believe that there has to be some other life out there with the capability of far superior space exploration to what we have.

Even though all the evidence points towards there being no such thing as Aliens visiting the Earth?

Thought you were a sceptic?

 

[GJ02]

I do

 

[bhavv]

Even though all the evidence points towards there being no such thing as Aliens visiting the Earth?

Thought you were a sceptic?

Erm yea, I dont believe in the part where they have been on Earth (at least not yet since I've never seen an alien or a UFO), just the logical possibility of there being other space exploring lifeforms somewhere out there in the unknown.

 

[Castiel]

Erm yea, I dont believe in the part where they have been on Earth (at least not yet since I've never seen an alien or a UFO), just the logical possibility of there being other space exploring lifeforms somewhere out there in the unknown.

What do you think about the contention among physicists that the physical constant that is the Speed of Light is the absolute maximum and how that would effectively negate practical inter-stellar travel even for technological advanced species?

Again how does that impact on your sceptical world-view? and how do you reconcile current scientific positions on FTL travel with that of your belief that there are space-faring extraterrestrial races roaming the Galaxy?

 

[bhavv]

What do you think about the contention among physicists that the physical constant that is the Speed of Light is the absolute maximum and how that would effectively negate practical inter-stellar travel even for technological advanced species?

Again how does that impact on your sceptical world-view? and how do you reconcile current scientific positions on FTL travel with that of your belief that there are space-faring extraterrestrial races roaming the Galaxy?

I dont think I made any mention of the speed at which such UFOs would be traveling, nor did I state that I believe they have reached Earth yet.

Also, I doubt that human intelligence is the pinnacle of intelligence that can exist in the universe, and whatever our physicists believe about things like inter-stellar travel or the maximum possible speed may not exactly be true. Our understanding of the whole universe and its full possibilities are completely minimal at best.

Im pretty sure theres no evidence to support such theories as well, but then again Im not a physicist so I wouldnt know anything, nor do I claim to know anything about that field of Science.

I was too stupid for Physics, and had my brain fried by A Level chemistry, hence I went with easy peasy Biology instead

But from a merely simplistic biological understanding, if we have life on Earth, surely there can be life somewhere else that can also be capable of creating spacecrafts.

 

[memyselfandi]

Is there life out there which is more advanced than us .... probably, it's a big universe.

Are they here and swanning around in the sky buzzing rednecks in pickup trucks ... I somehow doubt it ...

 

[Castiel]

I dont think I made any mention of the speed at which such UFOs would be traveling, nor did I state that I believe they have reached Earth yet.

Also, I doubt that human intelligence is the pinnacle of intelligence that can exist in the universe, and whatever our physicists believe about things like inter-stellar travel or the maximum possible speed may not exactly be true. Our understanding of the whole universe and its full possibilities are completely minimal at best.

Quite, so you agree that the possibility of things that we currently have no empirical evidence of and currently have no practical scientific way of testing may still exist, because our current limited knowledge of the Universe doesn't effectively negate those hypotheses?

Im pretty sure theres no evidence to support such theories as well, but then again Im not a physicist so I wouldnt know anything, nor do I claim to know anything about that field of Science.

So you don't feel qualified to make a personal judgement because you have limited knowledge of the fields involved to be able to sufficently justify such a position?

But from a merely simplistic biological understanding, if we have life on Earth, surely there can be life somewhere else that can also be capable of creating spacecrafts.

So you have no empirical knowledge or evidence that may be the case, but you believe that within the vastness of the Universe the probability remains that there may be other races capable of practical space-travel and space exploration.

 

[ethan]

Quite, so you agree that the possibility of things that we currently have no empirical evidence of and currently have no practical scientific way of testing may still exist, because our current limited knowledge of the Universe doesn't effectively negate those hypotheses?

So what's up with that?

Edit: To elaborate there wouldn't be any shame in admitting to the possibility that we could be wrong about things could there.

 

[Emphacy]

I watched a documentary on this a few weeks ago. Physicists proved that distant space travel wasn't possible because it is just so far away. (I think this is BS.)

I do however believe that sometime, somewhere, somehow some form of alien life MUST have visited our planet, as I do believe intelligent alien life (Like us) exist.

On the other hand, the US goverment, particularly the military sector released images and stories of UFO's to cover for their own Renaissance's and surveillance over Russia.
This lead both the American public and Russia to believe that UFO's existed. Even the people that made up the stories became to believe it themself.