Blu ray rips - MKV or ISO rips

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SO far ive been recording my blu rays to HDD in ISO format, firstly by ripping a 100% copy [junk and all] to hdd, processing it with clown to remove all the rubbish leaving just the audio/picture options, main film and menu, then using bd rebuilder to compress it down to about 15-20GB

this is still taking a lot of space [and faffage sometimes with clown]

would i just be better off converting the main feature to MKV container?
can i get a smaller size with MKV for the same quality?
Is there quicker process time wise? ie all in one program

reason i kept iso before is to play in power dvd and keep my options open in the future, but im not sure if this is best.

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If you're using BDRebuilder you've already re-encoded the content and you say you've stripped what you don't want. Remuxing to MKV with just the feature and audio/subs you want isn't going to save you much more space.

You could look into doing a decent job of re-encoding, ie not some one click program but creating a proper avs script and doing it right then muxing to MKV. That'll get you the most space saving. I find it sad that people buy BD's and don't watch them losslessly though. :(
 
^^the program of choice is the bit where im most stuck

^its just the sheer size, 40GB doesnt go that far even with 2000GB

what i was mainly after is that is MKV more efficient than what im already using? can the Blu ray be compressed further with the same quality loss as using re builder?
 
All i do is use MakeMKV to rip the main feature - i've found a lot of them are about the 25Gb mark. The biggest i have is 28 Days Later at 33Gb (ironically most of that film was shot on MiniDV making the quality absolutely awful)

Largely it's a one click process - let it scan the disc, select the feature and appropriate subs/audio tracks and hit go.
 
Isos are nice, but it's pointless (imo) unless you've got a multi drive nas with plenty space spare. Jut stick to ripping the main movie, and subs and audio track you want, then feed that into handbreak and chose the high profile, check the subs/audio and output format (mp4 is default) and you'll find them at ~10GB.

If you're doing a lot you can queue them up and run overnight instead.
 
ok at 10GB for a high quality rip, that sounds very good, does that produce a picture/sound track that is virtually the same as the original? i know this is a user dependant question though.

ive used handbrake before so i am fairly familiar with it, lots of votes for makemkv and handbrake, seems simple too, and the queue feature looks useful as well
 
How does one ensure that subtitles for foreign scenes in films are retained via using MakeMKV / handbrake? As far as I can tell by using MakeMKV it burns the subtitles in permanently for even english scenes?
 
This is down to selecting the correct subtitle track to rip and having a player which displays them properly.

For example, i rip all english subtitle tracks as theres no easy way to find out which one s which, then in XBMC the first time the film is on i enable subtitles and then select through them to use the right one.

It seems to remember this and the next time the film is played it automatically enables the correct subtitles. (I have them disabled by default as it's annoying a lot of the time)
 
pioneer2000 said:
How does one ensure that subtitles for foreign scenes in films are retained via using MakeMKV / handbrake? As far as I can tell by using MakeMKV it burns the subtitles in permanently for even english scenes?
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It doesn't "burn" the subtitles in, that would require a complete encode of the film and I don't think it sets a flag to force the subtitles on either. It just muxes the ones you select, it's down to your player if subs are used and which track. For most films with a few foreign language scenes subs are part of the video anyway, it's unusual to have them as part of a subtitle track.
You can check if subs are forced on with MKVtoolnix.
 
i do plan on getting a full hd tv [42-46] at some point but atm i use my 27in dell which is why i guess its quite important for the quality to be high

general consensus definitly seems MKV, at some point i guess i will want a network hub with all these films on it
 
ok i still havent decided on my next step, atm i have all my collecion [ever growing] as 1:1 iso rips, but i am now out of HDD space..COMPLETELY

i still cannot decide on

Disc -> ISO -> ISO+menu with clown -> Shrink with BD-Rebuilder
or
Disc -> MKV with makemkv -> shrink with handbrake

ive decided i want files approx 20GB, Full HD audio, unnoticeable quality loss, streamable from a media hub somewhere in the house

opinion is almost split 50:50 on this
 
What kind of HDD space do you have?

I have a massive collection of 1080p movies, my collection is all stored on a 4 bay Synology box with 4 x 2TB HDDs installed.

It's a shame that the NAS box doesn't support 3TB.
 
i am about to buy most likely the samsung f4eg 2tb thats on offer this week, i already have 2 1.5TB seagate 7200.11s .. all in my PC tower

it just fills so quickly with full isos

what format do you keep yours in?
 
Ace Modder said:
What kind of HDD space do you have?

I have a massive collection of 1080p movies, my collection is all stored on a 4 bay Synology box with 4 x 2TB HDDs installed.

It's a shame that the NAS box doesn't support 3TB.
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Which Synology do you have? My 410 supports some 3TB drives
 
Ace Modder said:
What kind of HDD space do you have?

I have a massive collection of 1080p movies, my collection is all stored on a 4 bay Synology box with 4 x 2TB HDDs installed.

It's a shame that the NAS box doesn't support 3TB.
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I thought a firmware upgrade would solve that, not sure though
 
I tend to bounce between the m2ts (selected soundtracks and subs) or ISO.

The problem with the M2TS is the lack of chapter points which is not such a big deal to me.

I like makemkv and have used it a number of times but the steps needed to find, rip, convert and remux the forced subs is just a royal PITA when I just want to rip and store in pristine quality.

I don't like re-encoding if I can help it due to the time it takes and the fact I am playing on a 100" projector screen most of the time. Not having chapters is really only a pain when demoing the home cinema stuff to go to set scenes but then I can always just pull the original bluray of the shelf and put that in the player.

I stream from my Nas to up to 2 WD HD Live TVs in 2 rooms (more soon hopefully).

RB
 
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