More Tube Strikes
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Quite a few of the lines already use an ATO (automatic train operation) system (one of the previous threads on tube strikes had quite a bit on this). The driver is still in the cab for door operation. All the lines will have this system at some point in time. Getting rid of drivers probably means opening up a huge bucket of worms with regards to safety but only time will tell.
could they not assign the doors to a porter?
Well as the firing of that guy their striking over showed, one of the biggest risks to safety is the driver disabling the safety measures.
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Well we could, but then we would have yet more unemployed. A high number of unemployed people means that even with the large number of jobs that exist for no real reason we have too may people. In other words, a surplus. And what happens if you have a surplus of something? It's value decreases.
Do you want the value of human life to decrease?
*not sure if serious*
LOL the London tube is not the Savoy. If you saw the numbers of people on platforms then you would think twice about doing that.
They could hire a monkey and put it on the platform but given that the guy in the cab does get to see the platform cameras you might as well leave a trained monkey on the train.
I suspect that given the state of the tube we are a long way away from removng humans from the train or platform duties for many years to come.
firstly how many drivers does the London underground employ? tens or low hundreds?
I'm sure they could get another job if they're as highly skilled as they claim.
Ok you're right the value does decrease, and that's what lowers the wage for simple jobs where there are millions of people, who can do it, but a very high age is commanded by those who are one of only thousands or hundreds that can do that job.
I'm sorry you're saying that you base the value of a human life on it's wage or employment status?
Wow...
Well I suppose in your world we could always burn the unemployed for fuel then.
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It was meant to be critical of the world as it is...
LOL the London tube is not the Savoy. If you saw the numbers of people on platforms then you would think twice about doing that.
They could hire a monkey and put it on the platform but given that the guy in the cab does get to see the platform cameras you might as well leave a trained monkey on the train.
I suspect that given the state of the tube we are a long way away from removng humans from the train or platform duties for many years to come.
that's what i mean a bloke in a cubicle with a button to open the doors, on the train, not someone going round opening each door manually, but obviously a porter/conductor wouldn't be anything like a driver in terms of responsibility, wage (which is why i imagine the current drivers wouldn't take the job) or ability to control the train.
calling them a driver when they simply open the door o nan otherwise computerised train would be weird.
Ah so made up then.
Use Google to find out.
Of course they could, there are lots of metro systems in every town.
really?
is that just underground drivers or all drivers in the whole union?
Arn't they all on like 30+ k too? (vaguely remembered from the last strike on the news )
You'd think the testing and implementation of a computer system would actually be reasonably affordable in comparison.
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Strikes are off. RMT members will get a 10% cash bonus during the Olympics, an extra £3.50 an hour during the Olympics, no member can be sacked during the Olympics. And the 0.5% pay rise per year for the next 2 years.
In return an unofficial no strike policy during the Olympics.
In return an unofficial no strike policy during the Olympics.
Yay for tube drivers starting on more than airline pilots, as discussed in the other thread... utterly ridiculous
I'm actually all for the strikes, as I think the more they organise before the Olympics, the more likely it is that Cameron will step in and put in place the laws that make it harder for them to engineer their strikes. Such as requiring over 50% to actually vote, for starters. I say bring it on. See how they like it when Cameron goes all Thatcher-esque on them. In fact I'm sure with the Olympics looming more than ever, motions are probably in place to stop them being able to strike at all.
Unfortunately I'm now working a night shift and with my start time of 11-12 at night I'm not looking forward to getting into work. Before I was happy to walk across town from Paddington, but there's no way I'm doing that at night.
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The funny thing is with RMT involved, I can't tell if you're joking or not
