Police - Digital Tracking

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/may/11/police-software-maps-digital-movements

The Metropolitan police has bought Geotime, a security programme used by the US military, which shows an individual's movements and communications with other people on a three-dimensional graphic. It can be used to collate information gathered from social networking sites, satellite navigation equipment, mobile phones, financial transactions and IP network logs.
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Yes, I know we can all read the knews for ourselves but I thought this might be worthy of discussion.

To what extent do you think the police should be allowed to dig into your personal life through all the many avenues available to them? From internet logs, mobile phones, transactions etc, I imagine they would be able to put together a very accurate picture of what my life is like...not that it would be of any great interest.

Is it a case of 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' or are there limits to how far the police should be allowed to dig into your life?
 
A lot of the sources in which it *can* collate information from, the police would require a search warrant in order to access in the first place. I'm of the belief that a search warrant wouldn't be issued (or indeed requested) unless you had done something wrong or there was reasonable grounds to assume such. Based on this, I'd say it was scaremongering.
 
“What, me worry?”

It's a case of "nothing to hide” as he switches off his smartphone and peeps around the corner.....
 
nydryl said:
To what extent do you think the police should be allowed to dig into your personal life through all the many avenues available to them? From internet logs, mobile phones, transactions etc, I imagine they would be able to put together a very accurate picture of what my life is like...not that it would be of any great interest.

Is it a case of 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' or are there limits to how far the police should be allowed to dig into your life?
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I would think they would require a warrant to use this equipment, yes? In which case: I have no problem. The problem isn't the Police's abilities or absence thereof, it's the legal framework under which these abilities can be used.
 
deuse said:
A software version of Echelon.
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*looks at sig* ..:D


Seriously though, looks like it's just data mining and collecting stuff into a neat visible format. It's not as if they've changed the law to invade people's privacy, they're just taking better advantage of information they already have access to :).
 
nydryl said:
To what extent do you think the police should be allowed to dig into your personal life through all the many avenues available to them? From internet logs, mobile phones, transactions etc, I imagine they would be able to put together a very accurate picture of what my life is like...not that it would be of any great interest.

Is it a case of 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' or are there limits to how far the police should be allowed to dig into your life?
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Well i believe that that kind of discussion is ultimately pointless, giving police more tools to do their job is a good idea, but also annoys people.

And yea, if you have nothing to hide, then there is no problem, if you have something to hide, then it is extremely easy, unless perhaps 5 police officers follow you around 24 hours a day and are always right next to you, while you take a dump, while you have sex with some random girl etc....
 
The logging of and access to all our movements I find very worrying. I like everyone else has 'nothing to hide' but still find it an invasion of my rights as a free person to do what I like, go where I like without being watched/recorded.

The emergence of ANPR camera's on every route into and out of towns, including my local one Aylesbury is just part of it. They supposedly create a 'Ring of Steel' in security terms, logging everyone who comes and goes for 5 years. Is this really neccesary? Are the Police just becoming lazy and feel they can solve all crime just by checking the computer?

On top of the Ring of Steel, we have just seen approx 25 new CCTV camera appear on most of Aylesburys roundabouts, allowing an operator to view traffic in any direction. What is this for? Its not to help traffic like motorway camera's may do. If there is a jam there is a jam, the camera won't help us to take different routes like a motorway one might.

People may not be too bothered now, but where will we be in 5, 10, 15 years when they roll out phase 4, 5, 6? Would you like a CCTV camera at the end of your close?

I may sound a bit paranoid, but this is the first time I have voiced my concerns and it something I believe has to be noticed and thought about by all.

It used to be that a judge had to give permission to hack someones phone. Is a complete log of your movements really much lesser of an invasion of privacy? And yet there does not seem to be any public consultation about it. Councils and Police forces can and are just sticking up more camera's and buying tools to watch us all the more all the time :(
 
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