Don't get me wrong, negligent or outright murderers they should have to answer for their actions. I just think the "we don't like the McCanns, they look dodgy we shouldn't do any more" attitudes is missing who the actual victim is, the little girl.You're right, do as much as possible to detract from the fact they were negligent - makes perfect sense.
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It was a mistake, I'm sure they wouldn't do it if they knew they were going to lose their child. Many people do mistakes, some of them end up regretting them forever. Hindsight is a great thing.
The victim is the child. If you had the ability to pay some money and get the child saved, would you reject it because their parents weren't up to your standards?
My assumption is that there may be leads that are (were) not investigated (pedophile networks? any persons of interest? just examples) thoroughly enough by the foreign authorities.
Everyone can make mistakes, maybe you would never do that mistake but you may do another one so don't be so judgemental.
My feeling is that the reason why they put all these awkward details in their book was to stir up interest/controversy. If they just wrote a book about their heartache no one would care anymore as the particular case has been saturated in the eyes of the public. But putting in a controversial spin in it they achieve a lot of front covers, the public eye is on them again and somehow their cause is again looked at. It's kind of a 'bad publicity is good publicity'. Think about it, they achieved a great result with the Met looking into the case again. They would have probably not achieved that if they just put a sorrowful account of their loss in a book instead.
Oh, and the sexual details cause enough interest for people to buy their book -> funds for their Maddy fund. An ordinary account wouldn't have achieved that many sales. Their end goal is to get money to search for their child, if the world looks at them in a bad way is very low in their priorities.
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They may or may not have achieved the same results with a book written differently although I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have got all the attention they have over the last few days.
The bottom line seems to me to that whatever people might think of them as people or parents, they have successfully managed to get the Prime Minister and Home Secretary of the United kingdom to ask the Metropolitan police to re open the investigation. I'd take the disapproving grumblings of a computer internet forum as a fair price to pay for that result
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Having lost one child through their own negligence they should have had their other kids taken off them.
Its not a 'mistake' to leave your kid alone when you are out drinking in a foreign country, its disgusting and should tell people everything they need to know about this couple. They should have done time for their actions not courted media attention for themselves and now having the nerve to write a book
Its not a 'mistake' to leave your kid alone when you are out drinking in a foreign country, its disgusting and should tell people everything they need to know about this couple. They should have done time for their actions not courted media attention for themselves and now having the nerve to write a book
They may or may not have achieved the same results with a book written differently although I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have got all the attention they have over the last few days.
The bottom line seems to me to that whatever people might think of them as people or parents, they have successfully managed to get the Prime Minister and Home Secretary of the United kingdom to ask the Metropolitan police to re open the investigation. I'd take the disapproving grumblings of a computer internet forum as a fair price to pay for that result
Yeah but they already had very close high level political contacts. How many parents within hours of their child going missing would get a phone call from the Pm and his wife and have 9 further phone calls with the PM over the next few weeks?
What is the name of the thread, can I ask?
It would seem like they intend to, yes.
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Yet those who disagree with them are not allowed assumption?
I think the foreign authorities carried out what they could and when.
If we had valid information it would have been acted upon.
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The reason they dont give up on the hunt is they cant, the evidence against them killing her is pretty overwhelming, they will never be able to give up, it wouldnt surprise me if they have managed to convince themselves she was abducted.
Does the name of the thread make it exclusively that topic? The victims interest would seem to be key to discussing any behaviour of the parents.
Really? Monopolise?
If that is the case we can but hope any renewed investigation proves that and they spend the rest of their lives in prison.
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You wouldn't do that. EVER.
Hindsight doesn't come in to it. You don't leave young children unattended, regardless of where you are because, (if they can walk), then they get everywhere, can fall down, chew things, choke on things, get trapped or stuck..etc etc.
Anyone with children knows this.
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I see it this way, my safety is my kids safety;
if they are not safe I don't feel safe myself,
Anything that hurts them hurts me (in a different way) but it hurts when you see your children hurt from an accident, its awfull, even when there was no foresight of risk or precaution you could have taken to stop it happening.
Example: oldest son had a cut above his eye when he was 5 from falling as he ran in the garden, that was lousey enough but then he had to have a quick bit of plastic surgury to tidy it. I would rather have surgury myself than have to sit there waiting for him having such a simple thing done, ive had a couple of big operations and I would have any of them again so I did not have to wait for him having such a simple thing done.
My childrens safety always paramount nothing else could ever be so important, 2nd part to that any other child that visits or is in my care has the same safety importance as my own children.
It was not a mistake they made, it was a decision by educated people to leave their children unattended. They do not have the excuse of ignorance to risk, as doctors they will have seen first hand or heard from coleagues numerous (I just left him/her for a minute) stories after children had accidents at home.
Informed educated people cannot make such a mistake as parents, it was a deliberate act of neglect leaving the children alone.
if they are not safe I don't feel safe myself,
Anything that hurts them hurts me (in a different way) but it hurts when you see your children hurt from an accident, its awfull, even when there was no foresight of risk or precaution you could have taken to stop it happening.
Example: oldest son had a cut above his eye when he was 5 from falling as he ran in the garden, that was lousey enough but then he had to have a quick bit of plastic surgury to tidy it. I would rather have surgury myself than have to sit there waiting for him having such a simple thing done, ive had a couple of big operations and I would have any of them again so I did not have to wait for him having such a simple thing done.
My childrens safety always paramount nothing else could ever be so important, 2nd part to that any other child that visits or is in my care has the same safety importance as my own children.
It was not a mistake they made, it was a decision by educated people to leave their children unattended. They do not have the excuse of ignorance to risk, as doctors they will have seen first hand or heard from coleagues numerous (I just left him/her for a minute) stories after children had accidents at home.
Informed educated people cannot make such a mistake as parents, it was a deliberate act of neglect leaving the children alone.
Where did I say that?
It was a mistake and they acted irresponsibly, I don't disagree with that. However, it is something that can happen and I am sure it happens very often with other families. We don't have to demonise them for it though, I'm sure they have regretted it. Whether social services should have been involved, I don't know as I'm not familiar with what kind of issues trigger their response. Having heard of far worse parenting cases in the media where the SS did nothing it doesn't surprise me that they were not prosecuted for anything.
Actually Kate McCann has stated in an interview that she has never been out looking for Madeleine herself. I'll see if I can find the reference.
Agreed. It was not a mistake but a decision!
Irrelevent, you are casting your ill feelings on to those for merely discussing the topic.
The subject is the parents, not the little girl. You can't accuse people of ignoring the girl when the subject is her parents.
Not really at all.
Just why are you so desperate to 'prove everyone wrong' on this?
Trying to debunk everything anyone brings looks sychophantish.
How many missing persons units are there that deal in international man hunts in the met?
Having lost one child through their own negligence they should have had their other kids taken off them.
Its not a 'mistake' to leave your kid alone when you are out drinking in a foreign country, its disgusting and should tell people everything they need to know about this couple. They should have done time for their actions not courted media attention for themselves and now having the nerve to write a book
if it were chavs it would be entirely different... i dont understand why the papers stick up for them
The fact that perhaps The McCann's have so far succeeded in suing the newspapers for over half a million pounds?
Most chavs wouldn;t be in a position to sue the papers so they would let rip on them.
I don't care about them, is their own fault for leaving their children home alone let alone in a foreign country.
I have 2 daughters that I am very protective of, I will not leave them alone by themself unless I know they are in a safehand.
Any normal parents will not leave their own children alone by them self and go get **** at the pub.
I have 2 daughters that I am very protective of, I will not leave them alone by themself unless I know they are in a safehand.
Any normal parents will not leave their own children alone by them self and go get **** at the pub.
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You missed the point completly, irrespective of what the McCanns deserve or not what about Maddie herself? What does she deserve? Allowed to stay lost or whatever because of the sins of the parents.
All this talk of the parents and what they are doing, suspicions cast on them etc the focus seems to be taken off that a little girl is still missinga dn she should be the primary concern not a bunch of uninformed opinions and conspiracy theories.
All the people on here that usually scoff at the papers and laugh at their inaccurate stories seem to be taking everything they say about the McCanns as concrete truth.