iPhone 4 or android?

grudas said:
but you paid 2x the price? and no the phone does not have the highest quality screen..

best camera? no way..
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at time of purchase it easily had the best screen , still holds its own now and the extra few pixels is always handy when browsing

camera , well apart from the n8 which is obviously better and the similar Arc then prove me wrong...


JeditOjanen said:
If you do pay list price for a Galaxy S II, you can get a 12-month contract with 3 at £10 a month, giving 300 minutes, 3000 texts and AYCED. The comparable contract for a PAYG iPhone is £15pcm and comes with only a 1GB data allowance.

Winner: Galaxy S II
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ignoring the rest of your ridiculous rant what are you on about with payg iphone ? you just put the same £10 a month sim from your first listed contract into it... :/

and the galaxy s II wasn't around last july...
 
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andy said:
camera , well apart from the n8 which is obviously better and the similar Arc
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You find the camera better than your X10?

Took some comparison shots awhile back with my X10 and a friends iphone 4 and the X10 was better I found, video however the iphone 4 was much better.
 
i nearly mentioned the x10 to be fair. still images in daylight it edges it! but like you say the iphone has better video and the flash is about twice as powerful
 
Robbo said:
I thought this would be the case too, but someone on here who works for Orange said otherwise if I remember correctly. Like I said though, if you want an iPhone and don't want to pay the big contract prices, you just buy it outright and get a cheap SIM only deal, they are reasonable enough.
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If I ever wanted an iphone this is undoubtedly what I'd do.

I was under the impression that when they released iphones on the other networks, the networks were forced to keep the prices and tariffs the same so as undercutting wars wouldn't begin, devaluing the product (/b my own assumptions)

Personally I don't think the iphones outright are horrendously expensive although there is a sizeable Apple markup, it does afterall have a much better build quality.

I just detest how people get ripped off on the contracts. Then again I hate my mates telling me they've just got X phone/contract cheap when infact if you shopped around online you could've got X phone/contract a ridiculous margin cheaper.
 
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If someone gets a good deal to them then it's fine...slightly off topic but my wife has a blackberry now and I can't imagine how anyone like the pile of poo. It's awful! Worst phone I can remember having played with for years and years...

iphone V android is a won battle already, by android!
 
No offence to some of you guys, but this whole Apple-fag thing has gotten way out of hand...maybe everybody should stay back on topic.

To the iPhone prices, I'm sorry, but I can't agree that they are remotely reasonable. The build quality is no better than that of the high end HTC phones. The software is a personal matter, though Apple need to update that firmware of theirs.


To be fair to the iPhone, I'd still say its display ranks very highly, definitely he best in terms of colour accuracy.

The problem is that you can use the argument of being a phone from last July, but it doesn't have the price of now.
 
Title does not compute, you can't compare a single phone with an operating system. Nor can you really compare the sgs2 with the iPhone 4, different gen phones.
 
R34P3R said:
Title does not compute, you can't compare a single phone with an operating system. Nor can you really compare the sgs2 with the iPhone 4, different gen phones.
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That's a bit like saying you can't compare a Gallardo LP570-4 with a 458 because the Lambo has 4 wheel drive. If they are both on the market, they both can be compared. The fact is that the iPhone is far too expensive for such an old phone now.

And the iPhone is the only iOS phone on the market, so surely that's the only way we can compare...?
 
R34P3R said:
Title does not compute, you can't compare a single phone with an operating system. Nor can you really compare the sgs2 with the iPhone 4, different gen phones.
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Apple are still milking it's customers with last gen hardware - not really our fault is it. That's what they are selling so that's what were comparing.
 
Robbo said:
Either way JeditOjanen, you talk as if I'm searching for reasons why the iPhone is better. I'm just giving honest (and what I believe to be accurate) opinions of all the phones from a relatively neutral perspective.

The fact you used the term "heilPhone" means there's probably not much point in trying to reason with you when it comes to anything to do with Apple, so I wont bother.
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I, too, am presenting accurate facts about the dealings of das Apfelreich. Just because I hate the company, and hold in contempt the fools who seem not to realise that they are being charged £200 to have an Apple logo on the back of their phone, does not mean I will ever be less than fair or honest. Lying to people doesn't help them to see the light.
 
lamboman said:
And the iPhone is the only iOS phone on the market, so surely that's the only way we can compare...?
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Yes but it's still compairing specifically the iPhone 4 to Android. There are atleast 2 iPhone's (3GS and 4) running the latest version on iOS but both have different specs. You can't compare the hardware of one phone to the software of another.

If it was "iOS or Android" then it would make sense but it's not. As per the title we could be comparing the iPhone 4 to a Orange San Fran, ok it's still running Android but the hardware doesn't touch the iPhone.

I suppose we can compare the hardware but there isn't really going to be much competition between the iPhone 4 and an SGS2 for example but I think this will always be the case as I feel apple seem to hold back features they could easily include just so they can bring out another device a year later and say "wow look what it can do now" even though other phones have been doing it longer.
 
JeditOjanen said:
I, too, am presenting accurate facts about the dealings of das Apfelreich. Just because I hate the company, and hold in contempt the fools who seem not to realise that they are being charged £200 to have an Apple logo on the back of their phone, does not mean I will ever be less than fair or honest.
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Again, you're making the mistake of comodifying the iPhone down to its hardware. Every product has a value, and the iPhone and iOS ecosystem beings an awful lot of value-added parts to the deal, which justifies the asking price - whether that is a better quality of app store, a better warranty service, a larger or more active ecosystem around the product, a superficially more attractive brand (yes, the logo) and so on.

I pay £200 more than the average smart phone to have an iPhone, and I think that's fine. The build quality is pretty much second to none (less so now, but it always is for a good half a year following launch). The quality of the apps and investment the apps in the iOS app store attracts is also unmatched right now. I personally think the out-of-the-box apps and OS is more polished than any Android counterpart. Smooth integration with some of my other Apple kit, and so on.

You have to compare the whole package - not specs. This is precisely why manufacturers are moving away from listing specs.

Just because you don't see the value in something does not make other people fools.

You'd really, really suck at business if you go about life comodifying everything :)
 
Based on what I've seen more and more guys tend to have Android phones now. Pretty much all my mates have a Desire.
 
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