% of non-disabled people who park in Disabled spots!!...

[ubersonic]

If you and your passengers can walk/move properly and are not going to benefit from being closer to the supermarket door then you have no business parking in a disabled space regardless of any disability you have, technically speaking its acceptable for me to use a disabled space as I only have one arm however I would never do so and have turned down the offer of blue badges on multiple occasions.

On the subject of taking up multiple spaces I always park a doors width from the car on my offside, however due to incompetent architects/planner this almost always leads to taking up two spaces, not my problem the designers didn't realise car doors need to open for occupants to leave

 

[MuttsNutts]

At my local Asda, I see plenty of hot flash kitted up car's in the Disabled bay's it does drive me nuts somtimes as nothing ever get's done about it..... Also see clearly disabled people having to park elsewhere and struggle getting to the shop doors.

One time on the tanoy in ASDA i here "Can the owner of the Green Focus RS with the reg number of B-1-G-D-1-k please remove the car from the disabled bay or display there badge clearly"

I just laughed to my slef

 

[Reemul]

Parent and child spaces are really useful for access not for the need to be close to the entrance. I have 2 kids aged 1 and 4 and it's the access space and safety requirements we need, not being right next to the entrance, you can put them anywhere as long as there is a safe route to the entrance from them.

You get the pushchair out, you put the 1 year old in it, you get the 4 year old out and make sure he doesn't wander away and then you go for the entrance.

Problems you encounter in a normal space, nowhere to put the pushchair except in front of the boot in the flow of traffic. Nowhere to stand the 4 year old as some idiot has parked well over to one side and you cant put him down the side of the car. So you stand him in the traffic flow as well.

You then get the Lewis Hamilton drivers who speed up and down the car park as if it's a race track endangeriong all. You then wodner why people require P&C spaces.

As usual people without kids don't get to see how other idiots behaviour negatively affects them and how it can endanger their kids. if everyone did it correctly there wouldn't be an issue however many dont. Why should we have to put up with it either.

 

[AndyT]

Massive problem in Leeds this, especially in the supermarkets around the more "scummy" areas. Doesn't particularly bother me in the sense that there are loads of disabled spaces, it's more the attitude that some people have these days where they think they can do what ever the hell they like and no one can touch them. Parking in a disabled space means nothing to these people, they just don't care.

 

[Edrof]

Parent and child spaces are really useful for access not for the need to be close to the entrance. I have 2 kids aged 1 and 4 and it's the access space and safety requirements we need, not being right next to the entrance, you can put them anywhere as long as there is a safe route to the entrance from them.

You get the pushchair out, you put the 1 year old in it, you get the 4 year old out and make sure he doesn't wander away and then you go for the entrance.

Problems you encounter in a normal space, nowhere to put the pushchair except in front of the boot in the flow of traffic. Nowhere to stand the 4 year old as some idiot has parked well over to one side and you cant put him down the side of the car.

So true. Kids are a logistical nightmare! Worth it in the long run as I'll need someone to pay my nursing home fees.

 

[haaammit]

To the op - why do you think that there are parent and child spaces? They are there to give parents more room for getting junior in and out.

If you are sitting in the car with littleun, you don't need the extra space, do you

 

[sorn21]

I despise people who park in Disabled bays.

Growing up with a parent who is disabled you realise they are there for a reason, not so you can get to the shops 30 seconds quicker, or so nobody dings your door. If you want to be protective of your vehicle park further away from the shop door.

 

[Morba]

True I could have done this, but on a busy Saturday we had to drive around waiting for a P+C spot any way.

I had a 18month old in the car therefore not misusing the space.

You were waiting for a P&C space when it wasn't needed? Why? Blocking the road is just as bad while you wait. Go sit in a normal space.

I was just commenting, I am no authority on disabilites, just that most of them were not "visibly" disabled. Which is surely the point of the extended spaces. Perhaps close and standard width spaces would help.

Remember, you visibly didn't need a P&C space, yet you were in it.

 

[freak2002]

You were waiting for a P&C space when it wasn't needed? Why? Blocking the road is just as bad while you wait. Go sit in a normal space.

Remember, you visibly didn't need a P&C space, yet you were in it.

As I said I was driving around looking for a space, no blocking done. I did visibly need the space as not only did I have a child seat in the back with big "Baby on Board" signs all over the car, but there was also a 18 month old sitting in that chair.

To the op - why do you think that there are parent and child spaces? They are there to give parents more room for getting junior in and out.

If you are sitting in the car with littleun, you don't need the extra space, do you

They are there for the extra space required, and for the safety aspect of not having to cross busy car parks.

And to both of you, as I have previously stated, I did have a sleeping child in the back, who if woken would have required getting out with the extra space being useful at that point. I was simply planning ahead.

 

[Morba]

As I said I was driving around looking for a space, no blocking done. I did visibly need the space as not only did I have a child seat in the back with big "Baby on Board" signs all over the car, but there was also a 18 month old sitting in that chair.

Car pulls into disable space, person walks out looking fine.
Car pulls into P&C space. 1 person gets out of car with no child, walks to shop.

Now, you seem to think that the 1st scenario is wrong yet the 2nd is ok.

And to both of you, as I have previously stated, I did have a sleeping child in the back, who if woken would have required getting out with the extra space being useful at that point. I was simply planning ahead.

Does that mean anyone can park in them, as one day they might have a child. They are planning ahead after all.

The P&C spaces were busy as you had to wait to get in one, surely the sensible thing to do would be to let someone who needs the space have it?

Very ignorant of you imo.

 

[freak2002]

Car pulls into disable space, person walks out looking fine.
Car pulls into P&C space. 1 person gets out of car with no child, walks to shop.

Now, you seem to think that the 1st scenario is wrong yet the 2nd is ok.

While I get where you are coming from this is how I would put it.

Car pulls into disable space, person walks out looking fine.
Look in car for badge - see badge or not...
Car pulls into P&C space. 1 person gets out of car with no child, walks to shop.
Look in car for child - see child or not...

I never said that the first was OK, just that it SEEMED that they were not disabled. Especially the ones that didnt even have a badge.

Does that mean anyone can park in them, as one day they might have a child. They are planning ahead after all.

lol...just lol

Then whats the point in disabled spaces? I might be in an accident and be disabled at some point in the future.

 

[ubersonic]

The government should pass a law so that people without a badge who park in disabled bays get a fine in the post, if they have one but it wasn't visible they should get off ofc. Supermarket car parks are under the same rules as the rest of the highway so why shouldn't the government/police take some action, would make a change from saving us from the billions of speeder that kill every single child in the UK every week

 

[haaammit]

Well I better start parking in disabled spaces then, just in case. Forward planning don't you know?

You really don't get it

 

[Morba]

While I get where you are coming from this is how I would put it.

Car pulls into disable space, person walks out looking fine.
Look in car for badge - see badge or not...
Car pulls into P&C space. 1 person gets out of car with no child, walks to shop.
Look in car for child - see child or not...

I never said that the first was OK, just that it SEEMED that they were not disabled. Especially the ones that didnt even have a badge.

You are missing the point. You did not utilise the extra width that the space allows. For your parking needs at that time you could have been in a normal space or dropped your partner off at the drop off point.
Child in the seat or not, you did not need that space when you pulled into it.

 

[el_dazza]

I worked as a car park attendant for ASDA a few Christmases ago - one "disabled" bloke displayed his badge, got out and started swaggering towards the door like he was Elvis, twirling his stick with an almighty amount of jewellery on. Me and another bloke just looked at each other in disbelief that this bloke had some sort of disability, was most amusing

 

[fornowagain]

How does parking a few feet closer to the store help with anything to do with your situation?

Because wrestling a screaming child from a series of shops or pulling badges off peoples cars is generally frowned upon.

I have no desire to explain my situation to you. Suffice to say without a disabled bay very close to the entrance, I probably wouldn't take him to the shop.

 

[Gaijin]

The Disabled parking system is abused and I may be wrong but I believe I read recently that it is under review.

I know of someone who albeit a few years ago used their badge all the time when it was in fact issued for their mother who they saw once a fortnight.

I must admit that I sit in RG Tom's corner when it comes to parent and child spaces. I park there but not in peak times when it is packed.

I don't have kids but I guarantee when I do that I won't want any special treatment for my family planning choices. If you want extra room, then park further away.

Interestingly enough when i worked at Tesco some idiot parked across THREE disabled bays in his Daimler Jag thing. Next thing, some skinhead comes out and kicks every panel in and walked off. Can't say I intervened in that one.

 

[ColdAsIce]

Because wrestling a screaming child from a series of shops or pulling badges off peoples cars is generally frowned upon.

I have no desire to explain my situation to you. Suffice to say without a disabled bay very close to the entrance, I probably wouldn't take him to the shop.

If he is capable of walking around the shop, then he is capable of walking in the car park. Utter nonsense from you.

 

[Moley]

You can really tell from this threads posts just who does and who doesn't have kids....

 

[fornowagain]

If he is capable of walking around the shop, then he is capable of walking in the car park. Utter nonsense from you.

You have zero knowledge of Autistic compulsions and obsessions. He has no inhibitions, awareness of danger or reaction to pain. He is abnormally strong, he cannot walk past shop windows without entering the shop. And has to be dragged away in full mental breakdown. He can't pass cars without touching them and likes to collect car badges. Strange areas or sites, sounds over stimulate him. A trip to the shop involves a half hour conversation on what he HAS to do in there and a shopping list he must follow. Actually I'm so angry at your response, I'm going to stop there. You're clueless and patronising.