MSI OC Genie

NickM

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Spec:
i5 2500k
MSI GD65 (BIOS v1.11 20/4/2011 with optimised defaults loaded, only things changed are SATA Mode -> RAID+Hotswap & CPU Cooler fan speed management on)
Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel RAM

Having never overclocked before I thought I'd give it a go as the MSI GD65 has the OC Genie button. However when I activated it my computer just went into a reboot cycle until I turned it off again :(.

After a bit of searching it seems its most likely down to the memory. After looking at the memory it seems that both sticks don't show up the same in MSI control centre/CPU-Z.

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As you can see they not only have different part numbers but different timings, is this likely to be causing the problem with OC Genie?

Would just putting the multiplier at x42 be better than using OC Genie or do I need to mess around with changing voltages too? I'm not looking to push it as hard as possible, just give it an easy boost.
 
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Have you tried reseating the memory in slot #1?

I would take out the memory and check for any post manufacture residue - once you're sure it's ok/clean i would resit, making sure that it fully clicks down (be quite firm.).
Then check CPUz again...
 
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There have been a couple of threads recently where a matched pair of RAM sticks have turned out not to be a matched pair.

I assume you did buy them as a matched pair?

Swap the sticks around and have a look at them with CPU-Z again.

If the part numbers are still different after the swap, and the part numbers have swapped over to the different slots as well, then you would seem to have 2 differently rated RAM sticks and it's not just CPU-Z having a wobble.

One stick seems to be this:

CMV4GX3M1A1333C9

The other seems to be this:

CMX8GX3M2A1600C9
 
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There have been a couple of threads recently where a matched pair of RAM sticks have turned out not to be a matched pair.
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Quite possibe - as i got sent a Dual Channel set made up of a broken up Tri-channel set.

If packs are being broken up to meet demand, by some retailers, there's always the possibility of mismatched sticks being sent out accidently.

But, hopefully you've just got a poor connection and the MB isn't reading stick #1 correctly.
 
It should be a dual channel kit, got it from OcUK, I think when I bought it the description said tri-channel broken down to dual but it doesn't any more so I could be imagining it! :p

I'll swap them round now and see what happens.
 
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It should be a dual channel kit, got it from OcUK, I think when I bought it the description said tri-channel broken down to dual but it doesn't any more so I could be imagining it! :p
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Never seen anything like that advertised myself.

Even if it was the sticks should still be the same.

Perhaps you got the left over sticks from 2 triple channel kits which had been split up.
 
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It should be a dual channel kit, got it from OcUK, I think when I bought it the description said tri-channel broken down to dual but it doesn't any more so I could be imagining it!
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Yep, mine was the same from same retailer.

It's not a problem (as long as batch numbers match) and i've had confirmation from Corsair that it doesn't affect your warranty. It is still essentially a dual channel kit - you just don't get all the pretty packaging.
 
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Perhaps you got the left over sticks from 2 triple channel kits which had been split up.
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It's either that or they were running short of dual channel sets.

That, or they had a duff stick in a Tri-set and so sell on the other 2 as dual channel set (which doesn't bother me as the memory has a lifetime warranty).
 
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Well after swapping them over CPU-Z now shows the following:
Slot #1 - CMX8GX3M2A 1600C9
Slot #3 - CMV4GX3M1A 1333C9

The opposite of before.
 
What does the sticker say on each stick of memory?

Is the memory set at 1600 and 9-9-9-24 in the BIOS with voltage at 1.65 or less?

If it is run memtest for a few hrs and see if passes - it could possibly be a CPU/z anomoly.

However, if the batch stickers don't match or are missing i would contact OcUK - here - and explain the problem i'm sure they'll sort it out if you're concerned.
 
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NickM said:
Well after swapping them over CPU-Z now shows the following:
Slot #1 - CMX8GX3M2A 1600C9
Slot #3 - CMV4GX3M1A 1333C9

The opposite of before.
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Looks like 2 different sticks then.

Get OcUK to swap them.

Ensure OcUK pay for return postage as it's either Corsair or OcUK's **** up, not yours.
 
Well the stickers both say the same: CMX8GX3M2A 1600C9, but its not just CPU-Z that reports one stick as being CMV4, MSI Control Centre reports the same thing.

Uhh where do I check the memory timings in the BIOS? Is it under the overclocking section?
 
I didn't realise memory required additional setup? (First build :p)

CPU-Z memory tab shows:
DDR3/Dual Channel/8192 MBytes
DRAM Freq: 665.2 MHz
FSB: DRAM - 1:5
CL: 9.0
tRCD: 9
tRP: 9
tRAS: 24
CR: 1T
 
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I didn't realise memory required additional setup? (First build :p)

CPU-Z memory tab shows:
DDR3/Dual Channel/8192 MBytes
DRAM Freq: 665.2 MHz
FSB: DRAM - 1:5
CL: 9.0
tRCD: 9
tRP: 9
tRAS: 24
CR: 1T
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Ok, for now just go into the bios and enable XMP (your only running at 1333)

Then run CPUz and look at the memory and SPD tab.

EDIT: We'll set your memory manually and with a lower voltage once you've done this - well certainly the memory voltage as your clocked and it needs to be 1.58v or below.
 
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The both have "111502303" next to the barcode but without a label saying what it is, is that the batch number?

edit: Ok Plec, will give it a try.
 
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The both have "111502303" next to the barcode but without a label saying what it is, is that the batch number?
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Yes it is - so hopefully it's an anomoly (there is still an outside chance that there's been a mix up but it's rare).

If it passes memtest at 1600Mhz and at the correct timings at less than 1.58V - your OK. But if you're still concerned after testing i owuld post in the OcUK customer services forum.
 
Ok it did not like having XMP enabled at all! It wouldn't post and just kept rebooting (like when I enable OC Genie). I had to turn it off via the PSU and reset the CMOS :p.
 
OK, that's interesting - it may be that the 1 stick is 10666 memory as the XMP may have tried the 12800 settings.

Do you want to try and set the memory manually?
 
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