Poll: Terry Pratchet what the...

Euthanasia?

  • I'm in favour of assisted death for anyone who chooses it

    Votes: 252 41.4%

  • I'm in favour provided the person is suffering from a terminal condition

    Votes: 301 49.4%

  • I'm not in favour of assisted death

    Votes: 31 5.1%

  • I hold no opinion about it

    Votes: 25 4.1%
  • Total voters
    609
britboy4321 said:
Yes, Terry did an interview this morning about it.

His body totld his mind he wanted to survive and the best way of doing that was water, and lots of it, to dilute the poison. His mind said 'I want water' despite him being told of this side effect in advance. When he was asking for water, every single part of that man was after the best way to CONTINUE SURVIVING.

The people in the room effectively said 'nope .. because of what you said earlier. Your option to change your mind has now gone, despite you still being alive'.
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You're missing the point that water most likely wouldn't have prevented his death. You're also assuming his request for water was carefully considered and not just blurted out because the effects of the drugs made him sleepy.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I think a law on assisted suicide may even prolong life. If I had guarantees that if I couldn't kill myself someone would help me, then I would be much more willing to keep going until I simply can't go any further. If I didn't have this help then I would likely kill myself earlier when I still had the capability to do it myself.
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The documentary itself showed you all of the "white files" which was where people had signed up to the programme for the assisted suicide however, have chosen to continue with life because they know the option is available to them
 
britboy4321 said:
When he was asking for water, every single part of that man was after the best way to CONTINUE SURVIVING.
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No, it was just his autonomic system reacting to chemical changes in his body. If we all had to consciously control EVERY aspect of our bodies, we'd all be dead.
 
britboy4321 said:
Er, people choose to have surgery when the chance of survival is < 50% all the time.

'Medication probably wouldn't work so let's not bother giving it him despite the fact he's begging for it' ... doesn't fly for a second ..
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Water is not medication in this instance. Also stop using the word begging. He did not beg.

*I should really listen to LeJosh, but he's such a good troll.*
 
AHarvey said:
For those against it can you please answer 2 questions:

1) If you pet had terminal cancer, the vets said there is nothing they can do, would you allow them to suffer?

2) Have you ever watched anyone die of a terminal illness, watched their suffering?
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1) I've had to have three cats put to sleep to stop them suffering too much. It's not nice but it had to be done for their sakes.

2) Yes, my mother died slowly and painfully from stomach cancer, sitting up with her through her last night is the second worst thing I've had to do.

I am currently on dialysis waiting for a kidney transplant. I know that if I get one it won't last the rest of my (natural) life. I've seen the state some of the more elderly dialysis patients can get in to, if that ever happens to me there is no way I would want to suffer through it.
 
vonhelmet said:
I'm not entirely happy with the idea that you could win this argument by reducing a person's right to life that of an animal, which is what you are doing here. I'd rather someone put forward a compelling reason to increase a person's right to death.
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What makes our suffering any more or less than that of an animal, we end their lives to stop them suffering. Surely we are doing the more humane thing here? Whereas is really prolonging out in most cases physically or mentally life really the more humane thing to do, causing them pain.

With regards to us choosing this option for pets because the VET bills will be large- most people view their pets as a part of the family and most family's I know of would be more than prepared to prolong the life of the animal if they saw it the right thing to do.
 
Was he begging for life or medical attention?
If he was you have a point, but he didn't did he. Your making rubbish up to suite your position.
 
1) I say 'I want to die'

2) Someone Stabs me

3) I scream at nearby doctor 'Bandage me up, JESUS MAN, BANDAGE ME UP'

4) He says 'Nope .. I heard the first sentence you said mate, I'm gonna let you bleed out.. '



Nice ..
 
That isn't what happened is it. He asked for water not medical attention. You really can't grasp this simple thing can you. At no point did he ask for help or say he changed his mind.
 
britboy4321 said:
1) I say 'I want to die'

2) Someone Stabs me

3) I scream at nearby doctor 'Bandage me up, JESUS MAN, BANDAGE ME UP'

4) He says 'Nope .. I heard the first sentence you said mate, I'm gonna let you bleed out.. '



Nice ..
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I'm afraid it's this time.

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britboy4321 said:
1) I say 'I want to die'

2) Someone Stabs me

3) I scream at nearby doctor 'Bandage me up, JESUS MAN, BANDAGE ME UP'

4) He says 'Nope .. I heard the first sentence you said mate, I'm gonna let you bleed out.. '



Nice ..
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This wins the argument, no need for any more posts :rolleyes:
 
AcidHell2 said:
That isn't what happened is it. He asked for water not medical attention. You really can't grasp this simple thing can you. At no point did he ask for help or say he changed his mind.
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He didn't specify whether he wanted it for medical benefits or not.

He wasn't asked. but if for example everyone in a room knew I was going to die unless I had a bandage, and I asked for that bandage, I think it's a pretty good guess that it's not because I wanted it to wear on my head as a hat, don't you!??!

He was simply refused a medical treatment, which he'd ASKED FOR. That refusal resulted in him dying. a thing you want 100% legal. That's the bottom line. And it's a pretty nasty bottom line ..
 
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