30th of June strikes.

_Jimlad_ said:
i work in the public sector and took a 5% paycut last month...

was not happy about it, but then glad im still employed
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count yourself lucky
Work for NHS and am about to take a 6k paycut from 24k to 18k as our dep has been merged with one that is a lower pay grade.
 
Pneumonic said:
pension agreements were made in good faith but they are now simply untenable..
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They're not untenable.

I have very little sympathy when their first response is to shout strike and run to the streets thus messing everyone else up...
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It's not their first response though, it's their last. if the government wont negotiate then what do they expect?

Lifes not fair suck it up
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instead of fighting and making the world a better place. Good solution! +1 would read again!
 
amigafan2003 said:
It's not their first response though, it's their last. if the government wont negotiate then what do they expect?
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Given that negotiations haven't concluded yet - and you can band on about the semantics of negotiations all you want - it doesn't exactly look like the last resort.

amigafan2003 said:
instead of fighting and making the world a better place. Good solution! +1 would read again!
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Or disrupt the capital, without a guarantee that doing anything will change the situation. Good solution! +1 would read again!
 
platypus said:
Given that negotiations haven't concluded yet - and you can band on about the semantics of negotiations all you want - it doesn't exactly look like the last resort.
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But since you are against teachers having the ability to strike at all, then it's pointless you arguing at which point they strike and you were just using negative (and untrue) connotations saying this was their first response.
 
Freakbro said:
But since you are against teachers having the ability to strike at all, then it's pointless you arguing at which point they strike and you were just using negative (and untrue) connotations saying this was their first response.
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amigafan2003 said:
It's not their first response though, it's their last. if the government wont negotiate then what do they expect?
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so the unions can't even negotiate in good faith? seeing as the negotiations are still on going how can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you are pre-organising strike action? Its a joke!
 
Pneumonic said:
so the unions can't even negotiate in good faith? seeing as the negotiations are still on going how can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you are pre-organising strike action? Its a joke!
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Does that mean the government should put on hold plans to change public sector pensions until the negotiations are concluded as well?
 
platypus said:
No, over half of the people that voted said they wanted to go on strike. Less than 40% of each unions' members bothered to vote. I'll restate it, a vote of such import should be mandatory.

92% of the NUT members that voted, voted yes. 40% of the total membership bothered to vote. 83% of the ATL members that voted, voted yes. 35% of the total membership voted..
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Exactly my point, they haven't taken into account for the people that have not voted for whatever reason. (not being able to for example)

Its just silly. Upto them, they're the ones not getting paid, so hey.

amigafan2003 said:
Saying a vote is invalid because of a low turnout is a no-go imo, otherwise we'd never have an elected government!
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I KNOW!! It's a shame isn't it? We wouldnt have the nit-wits in power that we do now ;)
 
I have a private pension as I work myself, I wonder if this cut back pension is any worse than what I'm going to get?
 
hanluc said:
I have a private pension as I work myself, I wonder if this cut back pension is any worse than what I'm going to get?
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To get an equivalent pension, you have to contribute 37% of your salary. I think most would consider teachers pensions to be in a pretty good state.
 
hanluc said:
They should think themselves lucky then.
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Indeed.

Yet low and behold they have nothing better to do than have however many days off to moan about their pension...Which by the way will be receiving less money that month BECAUSE they are out complaining that their pension is going to get less money paid into it :rolleyes:

(Yes, i know it will more than likely be there actual wage packet effected)
 
hanluc said:
I have a private pension as I work myself, I wonder if this cut back pension is any worse than what I'm going to get?
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Absoultely not!

If they get away with this attack on public sector pensions then private sector employees will be lucky to have two coppers to rub together at the end of the year!

Apart from the "captains of industry" of course, they'll be fine.

No one ever read the following?

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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I'm alright Jack is fatalistic in the extreme.
 
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