An Independent Scotland?

Must resist the obvious troll.

I'll maybe reply tomorrow after I get back from the job centre, having blown my 'earnings' on booze and fags.

Clearly you're not really Scottish, real Scots spend their giro on heroin :rolleyes:
 
What happens to the union flag, also does this mean what's left of the UK could leave the EU, and would scotland have to rejoin the EU as scotland and not part of the UK?

the union flag will change to reflect the change in the union. whats left of the UK could indeed leave the EU however i very much doubt it will, as no one in government ( or opposition ) has the testicular fortitude to do such a thing. Scotland hopefully won't pee away it's newly gained independance by jumping into bed with the unnacountable, flawed mess that the EU is rapidly turning out to be.
 
Oh, the irony. Scots constantly get baited as being anti-English but the overwhelming number of posts here that are clearly anti-Scottish is phenomenal.

Scotland is culturally, historically, racially and militarily almost identical with the rest of GB.

Scotland, Wales and Ireland are culturally identical as they are Celtic countries while England was a Norman freehold. :D
 
I think it's time to split the two countries, what do you think, what does scotland offer, unemployment and NHS drug abuse costs and of course North sea oil, which is disputed anyway as to where the boundaries lie. It would be nice to see England as it's own country for once, maybe make it more Americanised but not be influenced by the alcholic north? Thoughts?

You are an ignorant prat. That good enough?
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I think it's time to split the two countries, what do you think, what does scotland offer, unemployment and NHS drug abuse costs and of course North sea oil, which is disputed anyway as to where the boundaries lie. It would be nice to see England as it's own country for once, maybe make it more Americanised but not be influenced by the alcholic north? Thoughts?

It's clear that today Scotland (and Wales and NI) are an economic burden on England. As separate countries, England would be richer and the others poorer. However, England would be a diminished state compared to the UK we have today. It benefits all concerned to be part of the UK rather than an independent England/Wales/Scotland/NI.

Additionally, looking forward we can never know how valuable these other countries will be. Wales has more agricultural land per person than England does (and a wetter climate). If the South East becomes even drier as some climate models are suggesting, Wales could become a major source of water for the SE. Scotland also has a far better wind energy resource, both on and offshore than England, if the UK does end up getting some 30%+ of our energy from Wind in a few decades time, Scotland will be a major energy exporter to the England.

In short it's not in anyone's interest. Certainly not the Scots etc and also not for the English.
 
It's clear that today Scotland (and Wales and NI) are an economic burden on England. As separate countries, England would be richer and the others poorer. However, England would be a diminished state compared to the UK we have today. It benefits all concerned to be part of the UK rather than an independent England/Wales/Scotland/NI.

Indeed, the union is mutually beneficial, despite what the naysayers and independence advocates would have people believe. The bigger problem from an English point of view is devolution. The Union as a whole contributes to the bigger spend per head in the other home nations, footing the bill for ambitious healthcare, education and spending policies, defence spending and so on. And its not often the English benefit from most of these.
 
Oh, the irony. Scots constantly get baited as being anti-English but the overwhelming number of posts here that are clearly anti-Scottish is phenomenal.
It's always ironic when it supports your point of view, isn't it? It's rife on both sides of the argument but the mods don't really seem to mind it.
 
It's always ironic when it supports your point of view, isn't it? It's rife on both sides of the argument but the mods don't really seem to mind it.

I'd agree with eddie on this. There's very little anti-English abuse on these forums but every time a thread touches on something Scottish you get what is essentially racism from a select group of posters. It doesn't really bother me but it's hard not to notice it.
 
Location: Glasgow. Why am I not surprised you agree with Eddie? Sure lets sugar coat it because it's always the English being racist.
 
Scotland is in a stronger budget position than the UK as a whole for the fifth consecutive year, according to new figures.

Government and Expenditure Revenue Scotland 2009-10 figures show that, including a geographical share of UK North Sea oil and gas revenues, Scotland contributed 9.4% of UK public sector revenue and received 9.3% of total UK public sector expenditure, including a per capita share of UK debt interest payments.

Including a geographical share of North Sea revenues, Scotland's estimated current budget balance in 2009-10 was a deficit of £9bn, or 6.8% of GDP - stronger than the UK-wide deficit of £107.3bn, or 7.6% of GDP for the same year, including 100% of North Sea revenues.

In terms of the net fiscal balance - which includes infrastructure investment for long-term benefit - Scotland was again in a stronger position than the UK:, with a deficit of 10.6% of GDP, compared to 11.1% for the UK as a whole.

STV

Some interesting figures there which ought to make people at least question the prevailing notion of a subsidised Scotland. Most people seem to accept as fact that Scotland is an economic burden - after all, the London newspapers have decreed it.

Who can say with any certainty where Scotland will end up or which particular settlement would be the most beneficial? I can't, so I'm content to leave these questions in the capable hands of the Scottish people.
 
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