Suspected burglar stabbed to death by homeowner

White Mouse said:
The real tragedy of this story is that he didn't manage to kill all of them. The man should have been knighted if he had managed that.
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Agreed, its kind of funny that this is the same forum where not so many months ago people were praising that Gurkha who fought off a gang of armed train robbers and killed a couple and now some people are saying this guy was wrong :S
 
ubersonic said:
Agreed, its kind of funny that this is the same forum where not so many months ago people were praising that Gurkha who fought off a gang of unarmed train robbers and killed a couple and now some people are saying this guy was wrong :S
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Who saying this guy is wrong. :confused:

We don't know what happened and he hasn't even been charged. Posts like the person you quoted are stupid as they've massively jumped to a conclusion. I. The uk you have a lot of right and leeway to defend yourself.
 
ubersonic said:
Agreed, its kind of funny that this is the same forum where not so many months ago people were praising that Gurkha who fought off a gang of armed train robbers and killed a couple and now some people are saying this guy was wrong :S
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The Gurkha killing the train robbers was not even remotely the same as what has occured here as the facts speak for themselves. A group of bandits armed with various weapons invades a train and starts robbing people. To make matters worse they decide to try and rape a girl. There is no mistaking the intent here when people are having their goods forcibly taken from them and they are ripping the girl's clothes off.

In this current case it as not at all clear what was going on. It appears to be a botched robbery. But by the same token it could be something very different. I gave an example yesterday, so perhaps a few others are in order:

The "homeowner" as in fact a nasty drunk that smacks around his wife. He finally smacked her so hard one day that she couldn't hide the bruise anymore. Her brother found out about it and gathered up a few mates to head over and give him a beatdown. Things didn't go they way they planned. Who is the bad guy here?

Try this on for size, as it might hit a little closer to home to the seasoned internetter. The "homeowner" was in fact a internet scammer. He conned a bunch of people out of their money via various internet aliases over the years and the police just didn't find it important enough to do anything about. A few of the people who got scammed got together, figured out where he lived, and went over to get what they could out of him. Being a con artist he kept a weapon handy in case anyone ever confronted him. Bad guys not seeming so bad anymore? Could they perhaps be victims?

Lets go back to something a little more mundane. We are seeing the tail end of a long family feud. People from both sides have been fighting back and forth over the years, breaking into the others property, slashing car tires, and generally making each others lives miserable. None of this ever makes the media is it is just too commonplace. The stabbing was just a result of one of the incidents getting way out of hand. Now we have some prior motive, and that mucks up the heroics of it all doesn't it?

Again the point is that until the facts are sorted out the police are 100% in the right to detain him. To do otherwise would be negligent.
 
lulz at him being on bail, we need to build more prisions, to lock up the scum not give them stupid curfews, tags, community work
 
If I know there are there are four(ish) guys trying to get into my house, and I dont think the police will arrive in time, then there aren't many options you have left.

attempting to 'incapacitate' (ie do it nicely) one could well lead to you not quite managing to do it quick enough, and then all his mates come and say hi.

I'm not saying I'd have the balls to do it, but if you can put one on the floor quickly, and in whatever way, then you send out a big message to the gang and they are likely to abort (as in this case).

It does seem logical and reasonable to me to violently put one out if given the opportunity IF you believe they would be in a position to cause harm before help arrives.
 
Amleto said:
If I know there are there are four(ish) guys trying to get into my house, and I dont think the police will arrive in time, then there aren't many options you have left.

attempting to 'incapacitate' (ie do it nicely) one could well lead to you not quite managing to do it quick enough, and then all his mates come and say hi.

I'm not saying I'd have the balls to do it, but if you can put one on the floor quickly, and in whatever way, then you send out a big message to the gang and they are likely to abort (as in this case).

It does seem logical and reasonable to me to violently put one out if given the opportunity IF you believe they would be in a position to cause harm before help arrives.
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This.

Not wanting to be a keyboard warrior but if someone, or worse a group of people, were trying to force their way into my house I would do ANYTHING to keep them out. If that ended up with 4 bodies on my doorstep then so be it as long as my family are safe.

About this case we don't really know enough facts, if however, he is arrested/prosecuted for rightly fending off burglars one who should have been in jail anyway (lol rubbish British criminal system) then it's a complete disgrace.
 
Anyone and i mean anyone who comes into my house and tries to steal from me or hurt my loved ones is in serious threat of getting killed.

I would do ANYTHING to protect my family and what i have worked for and i couldn't care less if i did time either.

Burglary is the lowest form of crime i can think of, pure evil scumbags.
 
AcidHell2 said:
So you want to protect your family and things and then lose them all anyway.
You can use reasonable force which is a he'll of a lot anyway.
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Well you wouldn't lose them as they would be alive and well... Not that you'd even get charged, because it would be self-defence :confused: Stupid argument really.

So has anything actually come of it since post #1?
 
I am pretty confident that he will be released without charge.

and i can't believe some people here actually think being arrested = guilty?!?

He hasn't even been charged yet has it? so far, his criminal record is as clean as the Queen! (if he hasn't been charged or convicted before)
 
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