Anything I can do? Sue Spar?

dekez said:
I've only ever used factor 50 in the mountains for my face, using factor 50 on the beach you might as well just sit in the shade if your going to burn that easily!
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Its not though. Say you burn in 10 minutes normally, factor 50 is still only going to give you 8 hours protection.

Plus most research shows that people do not apply enough of any particular cream so only end up with a factor a third of what the bottle should cover eg SF15 applied in small quantities would only give you SF5 and even SF50 would only give you 16. It's recommended that an adult use a full handful to get the protection as stated on the bottle.
 
You wont have a leg to stand on, its your own responsibiity to you know when your burning, there are too many mitigating factors involved with applying cream, and lets face it, you can tell when your skin is getting too hot so you can either apply more/stronger cream or cover up.

There is no formula, it depends on application, environment, skin sensitivity etc.

Edit: Also moistuising after sun is key, if you feel your skin is hot even when you are out of the sun the you need to slap that on, and take a day out in the shade if nessesary, you cant put factor 30 on and then bake yourself for a week, and then complain you have sunburn.

Im a bit of a sun worshiper, and in southern spain for example I can drop down from factor 20 to factor 8 in about a week, and then just use factor 0 oil - but thats just me, and I will quite often have a day in the shade or ramp the factor back up if I feel in danger of burning. One time I went somwhere a bit hotter and I think factor 18 was the lowest I used.

Basically you have to play it by ear, you cant put factor 50 on and think, right, I cant get bunt -you can.
 
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hilly said:
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Nearly all conventional sunscreen products contain cancer causing chemicals for starters. Those which don't generally dont' get labelled as Sun Protection. If for example you were to use non-chemical sunscreen ingredients and call them "sunscreen" the FDA would consider them mislabelled.

UV exposure alone does not cause skin cancer, first and foremost. That much is a lie which the majority believe. Skin cancer can only be caused when UV exposuire is combined with cbnronic nutritional deficiences that create skin vulnerabilities.

Check out naturalnews.com for interesting reading.
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You don't seem to like the FDA, who you would replace it with? Because there are good scientists working there (a couple of crooks as well, but they seem to be getting rid of those)

Almost everything causes cancer, it just depends which statistician models the data.

And UV alone will cause cancer, that has been well documented, tested and reported over the last 50 years. It is just a piece of urban culture that comes back every 10 years, I still the idiots who used to inject themselves with vitamin D 15 years ago, renal failures used to be something big in summer in CA and other sun rich parts of the world.
 
People are being a bit dramatic in this thread aren't they? I burn really easily, but factor 15 is fine almost all of the time, at least in the UK. I would wear higher abroad, but factor 50? You'd need to burn in about 10 minutes for that to be necessary.
 
Think it depends on what you use to be honest. When I was in Greece last year I only used tanning oils constantly. No burns or pink parts. You have just got to use your head and have some self control and continually re-apply.
 
Dude that was incredibly ****ing stupid. :o

I've burnt my shoulders before, but never my whole body quite like yours sounds.

Fall asleep on the beach?

Hope everything's ok though.
 
Back in 79 I was in the South of France and I spent 4 hours in the sea trying to get on a wind surfer.
That evening I was taken to a hospital where I spent 3 days with burns and bad heatstroke.
Basically my elbows, shoulders, upper back and neck was a giant blister with a lot of pain.
I spent the rest of the holiday covered in some sort of cooking oil and borrowed a shirt off a very big bloke so it didn't rub on me.
Since then I won't go in the sun unless necessary.
 
I'd complain, as long as SPF 15 was adequete for your skin and you applied the correct amount frequently enough then it's possible that it was a dodgy batch. I work for a toiletries manufacturer and we make a lot of suncream, and there have been cases where suncream has been released that has not consistenly met it's targeted SPF rating. We get customer complaint samples sent back to us all the time where people have said that they got burnt, and 95% of the time it's user error.
 
MrMoonX said:
surely you cant get skin cancer from one day in the sun with cheap cream, surely you need a few exposures, this thread is LOL
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Why 'can't' you get cancer from one exposure? It is a question of chance and statistics. You can get cancer from exposure just like you can get cancer from smoking one cigarette.

Your post is LOL
 
shifty_uk said:
Went on holiday(outside EU) a few weeks back and we ran out of sun cream on our second week. Went to the large local Spar supermarket and bought some own brand factor 15. Inside the UK, it's all tested to the same standard regardless of brand so I presumed it would be elsewhere.

The following day I got the most severe sun burn I, my girlfriend and some others had ever seen. It was constant pain on my skin like I've never felt. Not even sore to the touch, it was constant, consistent agony that never let up. I literally had to sleep with a wet towel over the top of me - well, I say sleep. It eventually subsided over the days.

Fast forward to today, went to the docs about some unusual looking moles on my legs. Which were insanely burnt. She referred me immediately to the hospitals skin cancer clinic first thing tomorrow. :( Shiver me timbers.

Anything I can do if things turn sour? Write to Spar? Obviously their stuff is useless and I do not wish any holiday makers to endure what I had to. Admittedly I should've went to them about it immediately but what would they have done? Given me some free bottles of their useless sun cream? No thanks.
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I just got back from Palma Nova and used spar factor 26 sun spray and now have third degree burns on my shoulders and in so much pain. Its rubbish stuff
 
Use a sun bed to get a base long before you go on holiday.

Use factor 15 or so oil

http://www.bananaboat.com/products/10402.aspx?cat=4&curBrowseBy=Usage

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This has worked for me for years, you have to be manly as hell to not worry about your appearance when you are all oiled up though, some people think its homosexual behaviour.
 
You are in weak legal grounds here.

1 - You went to Fuerteventura, which is on the same level as Saudi Arabia, Egypt etc.

2 - It was June

3 - factor 15!!!

Isn't Factor 15 means you get 15mins of protection? I get factor 50 and leave it on for the day when I went to a festival and I am Chinese (I never burn in all the years living in Hong Kong).

Also, if you do sue. You need pictures, medical reports.

What they will say is that you didn't buy high enough factor, and add to the location and month you went, you were negligent. And the product is not defective at all. They will ask for the serial number on your bottle, they will find out the batch it comes from, test a bottle from that (they hold samples from every batch because people sue), test it and will come back and tell you there is nothing wrong with it, and may confirm that there are no other complains from that batch.

But dude, Factor 15??? Get at least Factor 30 next time.
 
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