'Apologies for photo quality, damn iPhone!'

Raymond Lin said:
No, it's not illegal, so I don't need to. If I ask then it kinda defeats the purpose of the idea of candids don't you think?

Plus, I rarely do street photography unless I am on holiday anyway. And yes, I see a shot and I take that shot. It's about the moment, and the moment rarely last more than a few seconds in my experience.
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Raikiri said:
You're in Britain, you have your picture/video taken on a daily basis.
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I know you do, but I was just wondering. No need for you two to get so defensive (at least that's the impression I'm getting). I know it's not illegal :rolleyes:. I just find it a little odd. Odd is the wrong word, but I'm at aloss as to what I want to call it. I've never been big on photography though, I prefer the 'classic' arts more so. Rarely take holiday pictures, haven't owned a camera in a long time, yadda yadda.


Raikiri said:
Who says I am trying to show the entire dish? Just because you misinterpreted it.
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There is a duty in the 'artist' to be able to effectively show what he wishes to show and allow the viewer to interpret it. I'd argue that there's been a failure in your part if I have misinterpreted it. And that's before we get onto the debate that surely each person has a different interpretation so who's to say someone's is wrong or right?
 
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Ahleckz said:
Oh, may as well ask here. When you're (I'm speaking to the photographers here) taking pictures of people on the street, do you ask permission from them or just snap? Some look pretty candid but I can't help but feel it's a little inappropriate to just snap pictures of randomers.
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98% are purely candid. It defeats the point when you ask permission. The best shots are usually unplanned ones. If someone sees me take a shot and wants it deleted I'll happily comply, although that has never happened to me!
 
Ahleckz said:
I have seen it plenty of times and it has always annoyed me as it's totally pointless. What is the point in showing a tiny portion of a plate if you're trying to show what a dish looks like in its entirety?
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That's the point. I am not.

Like I said, if I wanted to show the entire dish in focus, I will, it's not like I don't know how.

But sometimes, because of time constraints (you try shooting with an DSLR and cook in front of a gas hob with boiling water and oil at the same time without either burning the food or accidentally damaging £3,000 worth of equipment), I just snap the shot quickly, often indoor, no flash, thus wide aperture, thus shallow dof. Those other shots posted are taken with a proper umbrella strobist set up after the food was taken. For one thing I don't have the room in my kitchen and secondly I want to eat my food while it's fresh and hot, not set up a mini studio in my kitchen and take it and eat it later.
 
Ahleckz said:
I know you do, but I was just wondering. No need for you two to get so defensive (at least that's the impression I'm getting). I know it's not illegal :rolleyes:. I just find it a little odd. Odd is the wrong word, but I'm at aloss as to what I want to call it.



There is a duty in the 'artist' to be able to effectively show what he wishes to show and allow the viewer to interpret it. I'd argue that there's been a failure in your part if I have misinterpreted it. And that's before we get onto the debate that surely each person has a different interpretation so who's to say someone's is wrong or right?
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The key difference here is the difference of opinion.

I don't find candids odd. You do.

I don't find shallow dof photos of food odd. You do.

Neither are right. Neither are wrong. Opinions can't be right or wrong.

However, I have a prespective on how I see the world and how I interpret it in photos. If I start bending my opinion just for the sake one 1 individual then what does that make me? I don't take photos to make you happy. I take these photos for me. I am forever grateful that some people like looking at my work. That's enough, I can never please everyone and I never will and I am okay with that.
 
Raymond Lin said:
That's the point. I am not.

Like I said, if I wanted to show the entire dish in focus, I will, it's not like I don't know how.

But sometimes, because of time constraints (you try shooting with an DSLR and cook in front of a gas hob with boiling water and oil at the same time without either burning the food or accidentally damaging £3,000 worth of equipment), I just snap the shot quickly, often indoor, no flash, thus wide aperture, thus shallow dof. Those other shots posted are taken with a proper umbrella strobist set up after the food was taken. For one thing I don't have the room in my kitchen and secondly I want to eat my food while it's fresh and hot, not set up a mini studio in my kitchen and take it and eat it later.
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I don't understand why, when showing off food, you wouldn't you know... show off the food. Instead many people seem obsessed by putting so much unnatural blur around large portions of the food and only show tiny bits of it. And at the same time say "hey, come and look at my food... but only a tiny little bit of it. It's art man." It's just ridiculous. Picking something out and 'hiding' the rest, yea, I get that. But many times one thing is said ("look at my food") and another is done (oh, but you can't actually look at it! Muhaha!)

I appreciate the difference in setups as well, and want you to have your dinner and not obsess over the shots but I'm just adding my views to the discussion on food photography.

Raymond Lin said:
The key difference here is the difference of opinion.

I don't find candids odd. You do.

I don't find shallow dof photos of food odd. You do.

Neither are right. Neither are wrong. Opinions can't be right or wrong.

However, I have a prespective on how I see the world and how I interpret it in photos. If I start bending my opinion just for the sake one 1 individual then what does that make me? I don't take photos to make you happy. I take these photos for me. I am forever grateful that some people like looking at my work. That's enough, I can never please everyone and I never will and I am okay with that.
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I know you don't. I don't ask you to make me happy and to take food pictures in the way that I like them. Thankfully there are many other skilled photographers who take a decent picture that I enjoy looking at.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy looking at your pictures (often browse the photography thread) and you've got far far far more photography talent than I do but the style that the food pictures are done in has always bothered me. Just stating my opinion!
 
Raymond Lin said:
But sometimes, because of time constraints (you try shooting with an DSLR and cook in front of a gas hob with boiling water and oil at the same time without either burning the food or accidentally damaging £3,000 worth of equipment), I just snap the shot quickly, often indoor, no flash, thus wide aperture, thus shallow dof. Those other shots posted are taken with a proper umbrella strobist set up after the food was taken. For one thing I don't have the room in my kitchen and secondly I want to eat my food while it's fresh and hot, not set up a mini studio in my kitchen and take it and eat it later.
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No offence Raymond...but LOL :)

As a photographer myself I have to admit that the uber shallow DOF & "smooth and creamy bokeh" bandwagon that a lot of people seem to have jumped on is getting a little tiring on the eyes.

When it comes to food photography especially, I personally prefer to see the food (the whole dish)...not the "willy waving" capabilities of the lens.
 
bushmins said:
Never thought of it like that, just always thought the iphone must have been crap.
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Same.


The tomato photo looks like it's served with rice which is a clear failure of the photographer. No offence but bad photography or artwork is not a style.
 
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Nice car, I've always liked those. What engine has it got?

edit: Sorry, wrong thread. Gets confusing with all of these windows running on my dell ultrasharp 30'' monitors.
 
i-bert said:
How can you tell if someone has an iPhone?

They tell you.


This is so true.
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You're on a forum dedicated to people bragging about computer hardware and other gadgets. People's sigs list specs for their gaming rigs. This phenomenon is by no means limited to iPhones.
 
Is it that Raymond Limp at it again with his shallow DoF?
What are you on about that it doesn't matter if 1 out of 10 tomatoes are in focus? What's the bloody point in having 10 tomatoes then?
(P.S I didn't count if there was 10 tomatoes, that photo is just plain awful)

Remember when you got your 35mm 1.4 you went to all the photography forums to brag? I think no one gives a damn if you have a $3000 lens when you can't even take a decent picture.
You're problem is you only want to hear people praise you but refuse to accept criticism.
 
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