UK to donate £38 million to Ethiopa.

Pump the £38m into the UK rather than being forced to give it out to look good.

Doesn't matter if its ''only'' this ''only'' that, £38m could be of use to the UK - where the money came from rather than dishing it out left right and centre all the time.

Before anyone gets on a horse, please do tell me the other countries which donated such money... or is it the UK only... again 'to the rescue'?
 
Just read the 4th post down from OP only. My thoughts:
LOL 38M to build a new hospital, LOL uk living in poverty, LOL daily mail and LOL Mehuk.

Do people seriously believe this type of rubbish? £38M to build a hospital U Mad bro? You can't even buy a decent football player for that.

Despite the current financial troubles we live in one of the richest most powerful countries in the world I'm sure we can spare 38M to help a struggling country.
 
They should be allowed to play the Euromillions. That'll sort them out.

But aye, £38million to feed a nation, sounds like a pretty good deal to me; considering how small a sum of money that is for our government.
 
Whilst I see the point of arguments about them deserving our cash etc..............

at the end of the day £38 million is but a tiny drop in the ocean of our expenses, it will do exponentially more good with it's relative value in a place like Ethiopia, benefits our country in the long run, and all told helps satisfy a moral obligation within us.
 
I may be heartless for saying this but here it goes...

In the past ( hundreds,thousands of years ago ) when people in these areas of the world suffered droughts then they either died out or MOVED to somewhere else. The simple fact is that thanks to gobal weather changes, or solar activity the country of Ethiopia isnt capapble of supporting a population of its current size. Natural selection would solve the problem in the wild ( animals ), the population would decrease to sustainable levels.

Being humans we of course look past the fact that humans simply are not meant to live there in such numbers, instead we move food from elsewhere to try and help but dont change the simple truth.... people cannot live and support themselves in such places that suffer constant bad droughts!

What should but wont ever happen is that people should be moved and helped to set up communites in other parts of africa where the natural environment allows them to survive.

I have no beef with sending said, but its not a solution and it seems the political balls needed to try and solve these things will never come about, mainly due to the terrible regimes in africa and the racism and hatred towards other tribes that still prevails there ( rwanda is a prime example ).

We can afford a paltry few dozen millions of pounds of food aid. Should we give it... yes we should, we are humans and we should be caring when people are starving to death. But its no solution, and a solution could be found but as usual as humans we cant just do whats right as there are too many bad/evil/indifferent/uncaring/lazy people out there to get in the way.
 
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I begrudge giving any aid to Africa until they can demonstrate that they can actually manage to look after themselves to some degree.

I imagine you could put a few million 12 year olds on an island and they'd make a better fist of government than the majority of African nations.
 
Wow so many heartless and selfish people on OcUK nowadays, this forum is turning into a right wing haven.

turning ? I think that happened long ago :)

but yeah I agree, in the grand scheme of things 38million is really nothing when you look at how much UK borrows anyway.

Also to those saying we've helped enough nows the time to stop, does the same apply to all the scrounging benefit scags here also ? We have been giving them tax payers money for years so they can bum around watching (or more likely Staring in) Jeremy Kyle while swigging cans of cheap lager. I say cut all their payments and let them starve ? Hows that sound.
 
Wow so many heartless and selfish people on OcUK nowadays, this forum is turning into a right wing haven.
I dont think its heartless to want to spend money on our own country, sure its not a third world country but its hardly a utopian paradise. How many million (billions?) have been poured into places like Ethiopia and they are still sat around looking for handouts?
 
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Why do they live in uninhabitable land, surely you have to move if the land cannot sustain you? either that or die.

Will sending aid just keep them there, prolonging the suffering? Nature should be left to take it's course imo.

I'm all for sharing but it just seems so ridiculous.
 
I dont think its heartless to want to spend money on our own country, sure its not a third world country but its hardly a utopian paradise.

There is no utopian paradise. The closest are the Scandinavian/Nordic nations and you'd poop your pants and start crying if you saw the amount of tax they pay.
 
Why do they live in uninhabitable land, surely you have to move if the land cannot sustain you? either that or die.

It's not just like walking into town or around the mall. Ethiopia is ~20 bigger than England IIRC. Most of it barren. You risk moving you risk no water. Even if the water they have is polluted and minimal, it's better than moving and finding none. It'd be a death sentence.

Foreign aid doesn't always get used effectively, that is for sure. But we are altruistic animals, and shouldn't just sit and watch IMO. Poor for us is not being able to afford a Nintendo. Their poor is not being able to feed their families. Perspective.
 
Arent these deals generally linked to some sort of economic return?

We give you £30m and you only buy your pick'n'mix from woolworths sort of thing?

The problem is that the term "aid" is misused. Most aid is as you describe - a purchase of influence in developing countries that disguises subsidies to the home industries. This is what the Ron Paul quote about taking money from poor people in a rich country and giving it to rich people in a poor country is about. This however is a genuine human catastrophe, the money used will save people's lives.

People have a right to be angry that our foreign aid budget is wasted on Prime Minister's vanity projects, or that a long term solution to the problems in Africa hasn't been found yet, but people really shouldn't be angry about this.
 
I may come across wrong here and all that. But I really think we need to look after our own country first before helping so many other countries.

Does every country give this sort of money to 3rd world countries?

We seem to give so much to other countries yet we have trouble at home with cut backs here, job cuts there etc.

Lets look after the UK first. get that ship shape.
 
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