Milly Dowler's voicemail was hacked by News of the Screws

What I want to know is how do they go about hacking voice mail? Is it a case of finding out a number, a provider, calling voice mail and guessing the pin? Or do you clone the phone to identify as the victim so that when you dial the voice mail it identifies as the victims phone and then you guess the password? Or if it identifies as the victims phone, do you even need the password? Or do you have to hack into the phone company and access messages stored on their systems in a run of the mill computer hack?

It's one of the things I don't understand about "phone hacking". Run of the mill hacking I get.

Once they had the mobile number, 90% of voice mail boxes were left with the default pin code, so if you knew the network operator then it was easy to find out.
 
What I want to know is how do they go about hacking voice mail? Is it a case of finding out a number, a provider, calling voice mail and guessing the pin? Or do you clone the phone to identify as the victim so that when you dial the voice mail it identifies as the victims phone and then you guess the password? Or if it identifies as the victims phone, do you even need the password? Or do you have to hack into the phone company and access messages stored on their systems in a run of the mill computer hack?

It's one of the things I don't understand about "phone hacking". Run of the mill hacking I get.

It isn't hacking, you just dial the number of the phone and access the voice mail, most people don't set a pin number.
 
Do you honestly think the people who intercepted the voice mails phoned the executives at the NoTW and told them that is what they did to get the stories?
I'm sure they didn't spell it out; I can just picture Ms Wade addressing the senior journalist's morning meeting
I'm loving these illegally obtained voicemails from Milly Dowler's mobile; great stuff, should sell tens of thousands more copies of the News of the Screws on the Lord's Day. I don't care what it takes, keep them coming and get the same sort of stuff from anyone else you can. I want to know, face to face, on an hourly basis, exactly what you have got. Don't under any circumstances put anything in an email or memo and NEVER, EVER contact me by text or voicemail. Now get on with the great work.

Of course, Ms Wade has denied knowing anything about it; she was after all, only the editor. Why would she care where all this illegal material was coming from so long as it was making money for Rupert Murdoch?


What I want to know is how do they go about hacking voice mail? ...
Join NewsCorp, I'm sure that is covered on day one of the induction process :rolleyes:
 
The NOTW has now sunk to a new low if indeed that was ever possible. :mad:

If these allegations (ie. the result of the investigations by the Guardian, that organ of the bleeding-heart liberal left that upsets some on this forum) are true then the result will have to be a police investigation and prosecution.

Wade was the editor at the time therefore carries full responsibility, in the same way Coulson could not retain the credibility to stay as the PM's Press Secretary in the wake of the earlier stage of the hacking scandal.

As for Murdoch, he is becoming the UK's equivilent of Berlusconi with the amount of sway he commands in the media and connection to the very seats of power in this country :mad:

On an even cheerier note, Robert Peston on the lunchtime news intimated that there may well be worse to come regarding the extent and level of illegal surveillance by the media, so watch this space.

Keep up the posts Stockhausen, anything to keep the rabid Tories frothing at the mouth :p
 
The NOTW has now sunk to a new low if indeed that was ever possible. :mad:

If these allegations (ie. the result of the investigations by the Guardian, that organ of the bleeding-heart liberal left that upsets some on this forum) are true then the result will have to be a police investigation and prosecution.

One of the other things this wider investigation has thrown up is the cosy relationship between the MET and the NOTW. Apparently the police were paid for inside information which should not have been in the public domain.
That revelation appears to have been quietly hushed up.

I think that mandarins in the Govt will persuade politicians that it is 'not in the public interest' to pursue this too heavily as the public faith in the police would be seriously damaged.

I expect a long drawn out investigation so people will forget and then the private detective/hacker to get some derisory sentence and NOTW to get a small fine.

They may not even get that. Typical Govt response - Govt forms a committee to look into this and it's 'wider implications'. This will take ages and come up eventually with one or two recommendations that everyone ignores.
 
I think that mandarins in the Govt will persuade politicians that it is 'not in the public interest' to pursue this too heavily as the public faith in the police would be seriously damaged.

I expect a long drawn out investigation so people will forget and then the private detective/hacker to get some derisory sentence and NOTW to get a small fine.

My thinking exactly, the right-wing red tops have been doing this for decades but the politicians are reluctant to land a punch for the sake of votes, any form of regulation of the media by the state sets a dangerous precedent and the Press Complaints Commission have never been able to curtail their worst excesses.

What makes it worse in this case is the fact that a poor family suffered needless anguish at the hands of a few cowardly weasels and those who endorsed their actions by direct knowledge and sanction or by ignorance of the facts (which I find very hard to believe in the case of Wade) :(

oh yeah, have a watch of this:
http://www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-mps-backed-off-over-phone-hacking-probe :mad:
 
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