E90 335i - any info?

[TW]Fox · 8 Jul 2011 at 12:19

You are not paying a 5k premium just to save a few quid on the tax, its also a year newer and has the BMW warranty etc?

alx · 8 Jul 2011 at 12:45

mjt said:
Weird. Is there really a need for a 530i? I can't see how this can go alongside the 523i and 528i. Especially if it's less powerful than the 528i

Surely fox was saying the 530i was more pwoerful than the 528i, but somehow was slower to 60 by 0.5 secs.....at least that's how I understood it.

DM · 8 Jul 2011 at 12:49

Its the delivery of the power that makes the 530 needed.

If i was buying a 5 series the last thing i'd want is a 4 pot turbo, its a luxury car that needs a bit of refinement.

Dr House · 8 Jul 2011 at 12:56

[TW]Fox;19540392 said:
You are not paying a 5k premium just to save a few quid on the tax, its also a year newer and has the BMW warranty etc?

yes its a little newer but In my eyes 20k is just too much to pay for a 3 series now considering that the shape of the E92 has not really changed since 06. I paid 42k euro back in 08 for my first 335i which at the time I thought was good value but I would find it hard to pay anything close 20k for a 3 series now.

mjt · 8 Jul 2011 at 12:59

alx said:
Surely fox was saying the 530i was more pwoerful than the 528i, but somehow was slower to 60 by 0.5 secs.....at least that's how I understood it.

Yes of course the 530i is more powerful, duh

DM said:
Its the delivery of the power that makes the 530 needed.

If i was buying a 5 series the last thing i'd want is a 4 pot turbo, its a luxury car that needs a bit of refinement.

The 523i and 528i are 6 cylinder engines though. There is no 4 pot petrol in the lineup..

DM · 8 Jul 2011 at 13:03

mjt said:
The 523i and 528i are 6 cylinder engines though. There is no 4 pot petrol in the lineup..

Ah well in that case i will get my coat and learn to read

mjt · 8 Jul 2011 at 13:04

DM said:
Ah well in that case i will get my coat and learn to read

That's what Fox said though, so you read it right, but he was wrong.

Both the 523i and 528i are a 3.0 straight six.

OllyM · 8 Jul 2011 at 13:17

mjt said:
That's what Fox said though, so you read it right, but he was wrong.

Both the 523i and 528i are a 3.0 straight six.

No, Fox is right - BMW announced changes to the lineup about a week ago.

The 523i has been dropped, the 528i now has a 4 cylinder 2.0 turbo engine which is also available as a 520i in a lower state of tune.

At the same time they have reintroduced the 530i and made other changes, including replacing the 525d's 6 cylinder engine with a 2.0 4 cylinder with two turbos.

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesandspecifications/0,,1156___bs-NQ==@bb-TEkxMA==@sit-bmwuk,00.html

mjt · 8 Jul 2011 at 13:30

OllyM said:
No, Fox is right - BMW announced changes to the lineup about a week ago.

The 523i has been dropped, the 528i now has a 4 cylinder 2.0 turbo engine which is also available as a 520i in a lower state of tune.

At the same time they have reintroduced the 530i and made other changes, including replacing the 525d's 6 cylinder engine with a 2.0 4 cylinder with two turbos.

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesandspecifications/0,,1156___bs-NQ==@bb-TEkxMA==@sit-bmwuk,00.html

Fair enough. Before my edit, I said that maybe they've changed it

Is this UK-only? Or is this a proper overhaul of the range?

[TW]Fox · 8 Jul 2011 at 13:33

You thought I was wrong? Really?

mjt · 8 Jul 2011 at 13:35

[TW]Fox;19540963 said:
You thought I was wrong? Really?

Stranger things have happened

OllyM · 8 Jul 2011 at 13:39

Sadly nobody will buy the 530i, virtually every F10 I see around is a 520d

mjt · 8 Jul 2011 at 13:54

OllyM said:
Sadly nobody will buy the 530i, virtually every F10 I see around is a 520d

It's rubbish, isn't it?
It totally doesn't deserve the dual exhaust either

Although I saw an F10 535i the other day, I couldn't believe it!
And I saw an E39 535i yesterday.

[TW]Fox · 8 Jul 2011 at 13:58

Ah the e39 535i. Most pointless car in the range

mjt · 8 Jul 2011 at 14:01

It was an early one though, so a big step up from the 528i.
Sounded good too.

Django x2 · 8 Jul 2011 at 14:06

Fox, do you have a link to hand of the F10 revisions? Is this LCI or just engine revisions?

OllyM · 8 Jul 2011 at 14:31

Lucero said:
Fox, do you have a link to hand of the F10 revisions? Is this LCI or just engine revisions?

I don't think they're classing it as an LCI model, it's just various changes including start/stop being fitted to more models and more power for the 530d and 535d. Interestingly the 535d now has more power than the 535i!

Full details are in here: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/pressclub/p/pcgl/download.html?textId=138100&textAttachmentId=167091

alx · 8 Jul 2011 at 14:40

mjt said:
Weird. Is there really a need for a 530i? I can't see how this can go alongside the 523i and 528i. Especially if it's less powerful than the 528i

mjt said:
Yes of course the 530i is more powerful, duh

See above, you said the 530i was less powerful than the 528i

I think we're all getting confused now

mjt · 8 Jul 2011 at 14:44

alx said:
See above, you said the 530i was less powerful than the 528i

I think we're all getting confused now

Yeah, the duh was for myself

Django x2 · 8 Jul 2011 at 18:07

OllyM said:
I don't think they're classing it as an LCI model, it's just various changes including start/stop being fitted to more models and more power for the 530d and 535d. Interestingly the 535d now has more power than the 535i!

Full details are in here: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/pressclub/p/pcgl/download.html?textId=138100&textAttachmentId=167091

And the 535i now becomes half a second slower to 60 and I should imagine suffers again with ingear times. Seriously, it's like BMW want people to buy their
diesels