Nokia...going, going...not quite gone!

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Interesting article again showing how Nokia has become the laughing stock of the mobile world...

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/7/21/nokia-folds-15-years-after-inventing-smartphone2c-the-king-is-toppled.aspx?pageid=1

As an aside, I went into a 3 shop recently, to be told they're not planning on stocking Nokia in the future. Thought to myself that's interesting, only to be told roughly the same in the other major shops too. All shops agreed that Nokia was dead, apart from cheap, crap handsets, that are sold to "older" generations
 
that will be good then as the N9 isn't being mass released....like you won't see it in this country for starters!
 
It's more the WP7 device than the N9 though, the N9 has already been written off no matter how popular it proves to be :o
 
true...but if you read the article then you'll see what the guy is getting at. They are slashing prices and losing market share. As he says, it's probably the biggest fall from grace by a company EVER. Also, WP7 is tanking according to many sources, and I personally feel it will be finished before Nokia release a product
 
Robbo said:
Their N9 and WP7 phone are their last throw of the dice. If they don't take off, they've had it.
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I take it you mean just in the handset market, they have a massive business in core telecoms equipment as well (as Nokia Siemens Networks) as well as other businesses like Navteq.
 
Nokia Siemens networks is losing money too guys...hand over fist aswell! Nokia are ripe for a takeover, first losses in handset division ever, shares at lowest for 14 years and down another 10% since earnings reported...

If I was less cynical I'd have thought Elop was put there to kill the company...which has, of course, been said plenty of times
 
It's a shame really in a way, everything seems to have degenerated into WP7/Android/iOS and I was hoping Nokia would push Meego/Symbian hard and keep it going to provide a fourth alternative.

I guess you can't say they don't deserve it and haven't been given sufficient warning!
 
Nokia's fortunes lie entirely on WP7. The Sea Ray will likely be MS's flagship phone and I think will probably do rather well.
 
Hxc said:
Nokia's fortunes lie entirely on WP7. The Sea Ray will likely be MS's flagship phone and I think will probably do rather well.
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Possibly...but by then, as things are going, Nokia will be a minority player, with a minority OS. As a company, compared to what they were they are finished.
 
WP7 is going places, whether you believe it or not. Microsoft will throw money at it until it wins, as they usually do.
 
Down or up? I don't believe any amount of money is going to make that much of a difference. Sales are abysmal, most analysts reckon they've sold less than 2 million handsets. 1.6% of the smartphone market last quarter. Even with Nokia I reckon they'll struggle to hit 10% which is half of RIM's share and they're on a downward curve too. Already Nokia is probably the 3rd biggest manufacturer after Samsung and Apple, and Apple only sell 2 phones. Samsungs own OS has hit 10 million sales with 2 handsets. Market share for Nokia has declined from 70% in the Indian market Q1 2011 to approx 22% Q2. I just can't see how WP7 will save Nokia now. Someone will take them over, and my guess is Microsoft, and then, and only then will Nokia and Wp7 prosper
 
Microsoft to take over crumbling Nokia?

Nokia deserve one last chance with WP7 but they also deserve all the losses thus far for being ignorant about Symbian.
 
Robbo said:
WP7 is going places, whether you believe it or not. Microsoft will throw money at it until it wins, as they usually do.
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What like Bing? The last win Microsoft had was the Xbox. WP7 is far too marmite to be successful, especially with most people falling on the hate side.

I think I posted it at the time the story broke about Nokia jumping into bed with Microsoft, it is a utterly fail decision. They would have been much better off brokering a deal with HP for WebOS. WebOS is freaking awesome let down by poor devices. Nokia make awesome devices let down by poor OS.
 
Robbo said:
I'm not sure why some people are under the impression that 'most people' hate WP7?

They don't.
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This is from personal experience, we get loads phones and tablets in at work to develop on (we've had the HP Touchpad in for weeks, the Samsung 10.1 for a quite a while, we first got the Blackberry Playbook just before Christmas - plus several I am still under NDA for). When the first WP7 device turned up we all gathered round and had a go (very much a geeky office). There is a good mix of Android/iPhone lovers yet not one single person actually liked WP7.. this is from a subset of a good 30 people... most of whom are Windows developers in .NET.

Fast forward to now, still no one has one. Most people now have a Desire/DesireHD/DesireZ/SGS/iPhone4 (Desire and iPhone4 being the most popular).
 
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