Is this shop lifting?
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I know you are but what am I?
To commit theft you have to prove dishonesty.
Don Von Don is a serving Police Officer and he has said she did not commit theft.
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And you're not going to explain yourself?
What a surprise...
I'll do it
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=19675033&postcount=110
I guess that just shows you how messed up our laws are.
If she ate the banana, got to the tills and went to pay for it and then realised she hasn't got anything to pay for it - What then?
So will you take your roll eyes at me back then?
The law is fine and works well. You would have to prove she knew she had no money when she entered the store, you have to prove dishonesty.
Other arrangements can be made. Petrol stations do this every day - they don't start syphoning the petrol back out of someone's fuel tank.
And you're not going to explain yourself?
What a surprise...
You should probably read the thread before you throw the rolleyes around.
Basher said:
It never ceases to amaze me the amount people can get worked up over that smiley
And no I wont - You should know I loved every rolling second.
OldCoals said:
So if my scenario went ahead, she had no money, she could effectively get away with it?
Where's the protection to the store? I know we're talking about just a banana here but stealing is stealing.
Effectively though, whatever the law says I won't ever agree that it is the right thing to do - I would react the same way if I was the store manager myself.
Oh, you don't actually have an argument or anything worthwhile to say. Off you go then kiddo.
No, she has a debt to the store that she will have to re-pay. It's the law.
It's when you start taking the law in to your own hands that things start to get messy ...
Agreed...
Also, not sure how far this would matter, but I'm fairly sure company policy at the aforementioned supermarket is "Do not consume items on site".
Legal or not, the security guard did the right thing.
+1 I tend to end up tesco's on a saturday morning with a major hangover gasping for a soft drink, I take the drink glug it down and put the remainder in my trolley for payment, never had a problem.
Interesting though the only way a security guard can stop you or restrict your movement is if they beleive they can prove that you are committing a criminal act if it is subsequently found that they cannot prove you committed a criminal act then they themselves have broke the law as far as I understand (they have no more right then you or me to restrict the movement of somebody). Would be interesting to know if eating an object consitutes theft though, if it does then the guard probably has justifiable cause to stop you. If not then in thoery you could get away with eating a tv
So are you agreeing now then that it is not theft?
In my eyes, it is still theft.
But if the law says otherwise then good for her (The skanky witch
)!Sorry, I was joining in with (mocking, perhaps) your clearly thought out and well presented posts. Also, as I know we would be so diametrically opposed were this to evolve into an actual discussion I found it better just to make light of it, especially as you missed that 'fact' was tongue in cheek.
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Ah the old 'they make enough money so it doesn't matter' thing.
A local newsagent had to close because they were losing too much money from theft. How much money does a retail company need to make before it becomes okay to steal from them?
Obviously things like a store's budget for new staff, overtime for existing ones etc, being eaten into by theft are irrelevant, because retail stores shouldn't expect to be fully staffed or workers be able to work extra hours if they want to. They won't miss a few grand a week!