Government drops website blocking

Dj_Jestar said:
The same cannot be said for what the majority of pirated media is though.. games and films.
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Let's say for example I went to the cinema and there was a group of lads making a noise the whole way through and the staff wouldn't remove them because the group was fairly large, for arguments sake. Then they wouldn't give a refund after it was over. Technically, I shouldn't then watch it for free online, because it's pirated, but I couldn't enjoy the media I paid to see due to the fault of someone else. So is that acceptable or not? I think it is, I'm watching what I paid for, albeit by illegal means.
 
Aedus said:
Let's say for example I went to the cinema and there was a group of lads making a noise the whole way through and the staff wouldn't remove them because the group was fairly large, for arguments sake. Then they wouldn't give a refund after it was over. Technically, I shouldn't then watch it for free online, because it's pirated, but I couldn't enjoy the media I paid to see due to the fault of someone else. So is that acceptable or not? I think it is, I'm watching what I paid for, albeit by illegal means.
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That's between you and the cinema, possibly the noisy group of twerps, and entirely irrelevant to the discussion of piracy :p

Your cinema ticket permits you to watch the film once, in the cinema. It does not permit you to download at home and watch multiple times. :)
 
Dj_Jestar said:
That's between you and the cinema, possibly the noisy group of twerps, and entirely irrelevant to the discussion of piracy :p

Your cinema ticket permits you to watch the film once, in the cinema. It does not permit you to download at home and watch multiple times. :)
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But with the ticket I wasn't able to watch the film properly due to the group, and of course it would be the cinemas fault, but by my logic if the cinema wouldn't refund and wouldn't allow me to watch the film as intended then they would have caused me to use an alterative method to watch what I paid for, they would have stolen money from me by not supplying it correctly and not rectifying the problem. Thus they would have been the 1 taking money from the company who did produce the film, not me, as I would simply be getting what I paid for by another means. Piracy isn't just downloading, it's streaming too.
 
It's not theft
It's taking what is placed before you without any sort of thing in place to stop you,
Don't get saying " would you steal from a shop " it's nothing like that what so ever.
I don't do it so it doesn't bother me, but they all make far too much money anyway
I'm sure leo dicaprio isn't moaning as it was reported this morning he was hollywoods highest earner at £48,000,000
Lower the prices and maybe it will stop, but I doubt it
 
Aedus said:
But with the ticket I wasn't able to watch the film properly due to the group, and of course it would be the cinemas fault, but by my logic if the cinema wouldn't refund and wouldn't allow me to watch the film as intended then they would have caused me to use an alterative method to watch what I paid for, they would have stolen money from me by not supplying it correctly and not rectifying the problem. Thus they would have been the 1 taking money from the company who did produce the film, not me, as I would simply be getting what I paid for by another means. Piracy isn't just downloading, it's streaming too.
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That's crazy logic. Your contract is with the cinema - if you perceive you didn't get what you paid for, then take it up with them!
 
Dj_Jestar said:
And that's where you should have stopped typing.

Stop making excuses you filthy pirate.
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Another example:
You sell me an apple for 20p, I give you the money, you then refuse to give me the apple. You leave it on the table and walk off, so I take the apple. I'm not stealing it, I'm simply taking what I paid for and what I am entitled too.

Also you should check my steam profile, go on, it's in my signature., give it a click. Didn't know pirates paid for so many games, maybe you shouldn't assume people pirate, pretty ridiculous.
 
iDroid84 said:
I have noticed something that the people defending this so called 'blocking' are indeed the pirates. Visit the desktop screenshot thread and see.
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i bet you have apps from cydia you have not paid for ;)
or at least tried then deleted
 
Aedus said:
Another example:
You sell me an apple for 20p, I give you the money, you then refuse to give me the apple. You leave it on the table and walk off, so I take the apple. I'm not stealing it, I'm simply taking what I paid for and what I am entitled too.
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So where is the problem, or even the alleged theft?

Also you should check my steam profile, go on, it's in my signature., give it a click. Didn't know pirates paid for so many games, maybe you shouldn't assume people pirate, pretty ridiculous.
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I didn't accuse you of anything - you did that yourself:
Aedus said:
If I pirate something then I would never have any intention of buying it anyway, so it's a non-issue, the company doesn't lose any money from a sale, because the sale was never there to begin with, therefor it's not theft. I mean lets be honest, how many normal people who want to use a program like 3DSMAX just as something to play with, would actually pay that price for it? If you're in a company or a professional, sure. But £2000+ is ridiculous for software. Same thing with most people who own photoshop, and other software like that.
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Dj_Jestar said:
So where is the problem, or even the alleged theft?

I didn't accuse you of anything - you did that yourself:
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The principal was exactly the same, in a different scenario, taking what you're entitled to.

I don't even have 3DSMAX, it's called an example, and I didn't confirm if I did or didn't pirate in that post, you just assumed I did, "if" is a pretty big word for such few letters, you then accused me of being 1 with no factual proof other than a scenario and and example.
 
GJ02 said:
It's not theft
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It's not theft by definition, the closest thing as an equivalent would probably be handling stolen goods. Someone else made the copy and then you used the copy.

Aedus said:
Another example:
You sell me an apple for 20p, I give you the money, you then refuse to give me the apple. You leave it on the table and walk off, so I take the apple. I'm not stealing it, I'm simply taking what I paid for and what I am entitled too.
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But it is not like that in your cinema description. It is closer to "you buy an apple, are not allowed to eat the apple, and then decide to find someone who stole a load of apples from the farm, and eat one of them."
 
Well, we seem to have all the ingredients for the usual "piracy is/isn't theft argument" :):

- Someone who doesn't understand the legal definition of theft, and/or difference between physical and intellectual property, and/or difference between criminal and civil law
- Someone who does
- Someone trying to justify their behaviour on moral or economic grounds

Just waiting for Godwin's Law to kick in :D
 
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