Restore a rolling 30 year-old exemption to VED, for classic vehicles - e-petition

Be a nice idea but given how skint the country is I can't see them deciding to enact any changes to the VED system that will reduce the tax take.. the classic car lobby is not that influential.
 
I feel the need to ask why? They still use the road. A better petition would be to introduce mileage based tax.
 
I'd rather we taxed everyone on the mileage driven not the CO2.

Driving a 3 litre car 4000 miles a year should not cost 5 times more in tax than driving a 520d 40,000 miles a year. It is nonsensical.
 
BinnsY said:
I feel the need to ask why? They still use the road. A better petition would be to introduce mileage based tax.
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Or just get rid of road tax and rely on fuel duty which does a very good job of this and I'd image is much more efficient. I don't want to think how much of the cost of a tax disk goes on DVLA running expenses.

Road tax was needed years ago be checking a tax disk was the easiest way to check that a car was likely to have an mot and insurance.

Now it's very easy for the police to check these things.
 
[TW]Fox;19828260 said:
I'd rather we taxed everyone on the mileage driven not the CO2.

Driving a 3 litre car 4000 miles a year should not cost 5 times more in tax than driving a 520d 40,000 miles a year. It is nonsensical.
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You get ****** over for taxation in fuel. More miles means more taxation.
There is no place for road tax really, at all.
 
aproctor said:
They do less miles and imho should not be subject to a full tax rate, although that comes back to Fox's point.
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so someone with a Ferrari that does 2k a year should be exempt too, I have no issue with it being mileage based but how can age be a vaild criteria ?
 
I'd like to think it gets the 100,000 signatures for the change in the law. The only thing stopping this would be people having no knowledge of this. Once the magazines specialising in 'older prestige' motors etc get hold of this I'll sure they would get enough. Look at VW's, motorcycles, scooters, Landrover, Jaguar, Rolls Royce etc etc. Although I do agree with the taxation on mileage.
 
Nope. I'd happily support a petition for road tax to be scrapped and fuel duty increased to compensate. Ideally, each vehicle would have a duty multiplier assigned for non CO2 emissions, so a Euro V compliant car would have less duty to pay than a Euro III compliant one for example.
 
Uriel said:
Nope. I'd happily support a petition for road tax to be scrapped and fuel duty increased to compensate. Ideally, each vehicle would have a duty multiplier assigned for non CO2 emissions, so a Euro V compliant car would have less duty to pay than a Euro III compliant one for example.
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Why would you need to do that if it was on fuel? Euro III vehicles will consume more fuel and thus pay more tax?
 
[TW]Fox;19831248 said:
Why would you need to do that if it was on fuel? Euro III vehicles will consume more fuel and thus pay more tax?
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I think fuel duty is fairer than VED and it correlates well with CO2 emissions. However, I would also prefer to see more polluting vehicles pay a higher rate of fuel duty. For example an older diesel that belches out more particulate and NO2 than a newer one would pay more per litre of fuel.

The drawback is that it would be complicated to implement and difficult to enforce. Registering vehicles is simple enough but so is adding / deleting a Cat or DPF.

Just scrapping VED and putting it all on fuel would be a much more likely candidate for implementation.
 
Uriel said:
However, I would also prefer to see more polluting vehicles pay a higher rate of fuel duty
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Why should they?!

They already pay more tax on fuel because they USE MORE FUEL. CO2 and MPG are roughly proportional - the more CO2 you kick out, the less mpg you get, the more fuel you buy, the more tax you pay!
 
[TW]Fox;19831477 said:
Why should they?!

They already pay more tax on fuel because they USE MORE FUEL. CO2 and MPG are roughly proportional - the more CO2 you kick out, the less mpg you get, the more fuel you buy, the more tax you pay!
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Agreed, however I was specifically not referring to CO2 emissions. That's obviously taken care of by fuel duty alone. My suggestion related to pollution that has a direct effect on air quality for human respiration.

You can have a euro V compliant vehicle that drinks significantly more fuel and puts our more CO2 than a Euro III one. However, the Euro III vehicle will spew out a load of other crappy stuff too. I'm just saying there should be something to encourage cleaner exhausts and simply taxing diesel higher than petrol doesn't really cover it.
 
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