Increase in Human Negativity

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I was watching Bloomberg and they had some financial manager guy come on talking about the outlook for the next few years, and at the end of the interview he started going on about how he believes solar cycles effect human behavior and correlate to times of war and violence. He said he uses this phenomenon as part of his trading strategy. The presenter just totally ignored what he said and continued as normal. He didn't seem like a nutter, this was regular Bloomberg market news :confused:

It was interesting though because I've been reading about the low sun spot activity and how the electromagnetism effects the earth. Scientists have done tests with putting magnets on people's heads and messing with their thoughts, like this for example:


What if the solar weather is causing a similar effect on all our brains like that dude was saying making society more unstable? There seems to be a lot of negativity and upheaval lately with the Arab Spring, Norway shooter, London riots, USA violent flash mobs, etc, etc.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16826682

We studied the correlations among sunspot numbers, business cycles, and suicide mortalitites. Based on data from Japan between 1971 and 2001, a significant negative correlation between sunspot numbers and unemployment rate was found, R= -.17. The correlation between suicide mortality and unemployment rate was positive for males (R=.46) and negative for females (R =-.69). Both are statistically significant. The hypothesis that variation of sun activity may affect the economy and the unemployment rate and hence increase the male suicide mortality is raised.
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Another interdasting abstract...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20919478

Exposure to solar activity may be associated with incidence of depressive and manic disorders.
AIM:

To assess the link between solar activity and appearance of affective disorders.
MATERIAL AND METHODS:

We examined 1862 clinical records of a psychiatric clinic located in Santiago, Chile. Patients with major depression and manic disorders were included in the study, only when they were admitted at the clinic for the first time. Solar activity was calculated using the Wolf number, which is given by the formula R = K(10g+f), where "g" stands for the groups of sunspots and "f" is the total number of sunspots. We examined the correlation between annual incidence of hospital admissions and average Wolf numbers for the period 1990-2005, which corresponds to approximately one and half solar cycles of 16 years.
RESULTS:

A total of 450 medical records corresponding to 299 patients (199 women) with depressive symptoms and 151 patients (73 women) with mania, were analyzed. There was a higher number of admissions for depression during the years with lower solar activity. Admissions due to mania tended to increase in the years with high solar activity. There was a negative correlation between the number of hospital admissions due to depression and solar activity (Spearman r = -0.812, p < 0.01). The association between the latter parameter and admissions due to mania did not reach statistical significance.
CONCLUSIONS:

There is a significant negative association between the rate of hospital admissions due to depressive disorders and solar activity.
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So the negative association would mean depression is up right now as we're in the solar minimum, going into a particularly weak cycle, the least active in 200 years).

Anyone feeling unusually depressed lately?

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I've seen that god helmet experiment before. The effect magnetic and electrical interference has on our brain operating is very interesting. Though I don't know enough about it to make any real comment on it.

I mean, we're told that animals are sensitive to electrical interference and phenomena. So why shouldn't we be also?
 
No I just read the abstracts i didnt read the whole text. Googling "japan suicide sunspots" might yield some more info. I've only been reading about the behavioral aspect for a couple hours, I was posting a nutshell of what I found because it seems pretty interesting and to see if anyone had heard of such a thing.
 
Well as we can't control sunspots, and its been going on for billions of years, I suspect its nothing to worry about for the average person.
 
Reaper 392 said:
*reads OP*
what on earth are you going on about :confused:

*reads OP's name*
ooooooohhhhhh, i get it now.

lol kwerk
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You're right! Because it's a kwerk thread the fact that he posted a rational, interesting and thought provoking question (backed by some scientific abstracts none-the-less) is irrelevant. I'd have thought someone at a university would have better comprehension skills than that. Or are you studying media, or the history of David Beckham or something?

Who are we lol-ing at again? :rolleyes:

Here's a clip from Through the Wormhole showing how 'morphic fields' (the theory that we are connected via the Earth's magnetic field) are being tested by scientists, with some surprising results. Not 100% related to the OP, but on a similar vein and indirectly part of the same topic. :)

 
Few more papers I found, the full texts is hard to find though unless you have a copy of "Science" from 1928.

Source:
Science, 67, 1928. pp. 397.
Statistics from Russia for the entire nineteenth century show concomitant variations in the numbers of births, deaths and marriages and in the number of sun spots. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2010 APA, all rights reserved)
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Games and Economic Behavior, Vol 56(1), Jul, 2006. pp. 174-184.
Abstract:
Correlated equilibria in strategic market games played, simultaneously, by "overlapping generations" of players correspond to sunspot equilibria in the associated, competitive economy. We provide a necessary and sufficient condition for existence of effective correlation. An increase in the number of agents in a given economy may allow for effective correlation. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2010 APA, all rights reserved)
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Source:
Annales Médico-Psychologiques, Vol 1(1), Jan, 1976. pp. 51-61.
Compared the time of suicide attempts (including the 2 days preceding the attempt) with daily data on atmospheric pressure, air temperature, precipitation, humidity, water-vapor conditions, wind speed and direction, sunspots, and measures of electronic density in the F2 layer (300 km altitude). 675 cases of suicide attempted by autointoxication were observed in the resuscitation unit of a large hospital. Suicide by all other methods, such as hanging, jumping from high places, or firearms, were eliminated because they were more difficult to assess medico-legally). Chi-square comparison of weather parameters with the time of suicide attempt did not reveal any significant relationships. No suicide attempters were recorded during periods of solar eruption, but a marked correlation was observed between the rate of self-destruction and the direction of moving air charged with ionized particles. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2010 APA, all rights reserved)
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Source:
The scientific study of human nature: Tribute to Hans J. Eysenck at eighty. Nyborg, Helmuth (Ed.); pp. 491-510. Amsterdam, Netherlands: Pergamon/Elsevier Science Inc, 1997. xxix, 621 pp.
Abstract:
Discusses H. J. Eysenck's views on heliobiology, a discipline that falls within the realm of astrology and parapsychology. Specifically, the author presents evidence suggesting an effect of sunspot cycles on human creativity. Correlations between solar activity and creativity are discussed. The author concludes, in agreement with Eysenck, that such potential effects merit further investigation. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2010 APA, all rights reserved)
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WeOwnTheSky said:
At least try and understand it before posting something so silly.
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i actually know a reasonable amount about this. i dont know if ive seen the god helmet, but ive seen something very similar using magnetism that gave people photographic memories, allowing them to remember the position of a certain object in a photo amongst similar objects when the photo has only been shown for ~0.2 seconds.

i also understand a little about the sun cycle thing and remember reading somewhere that cycle 24 might be missed completely because of very low sun spot activity.

but linking the two and saying its making us feel depressed and causing the riots, thats why i went lol kwerk
 
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Reaper 392 said:
i actually know a reasonable amount about this. i dont know if ive seen the god helmet, but ive seen something very similar that gave people photographic memories, allowing them to remember the position of a certain object in a photo amongst similar objects when the photo has only been shown for ~0.2 seconds.

i also understand a little about the sun cycle thing and remember reading somewhere that cycle 24 might be missed completely because of very low sun spot activity.

but linking the two and saying its making us feel depressed and causing the riots, thats why i went lol kwerk
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You know a reasonable amount about it, but didn't consider that there may be something in it? The guy even posted you some abstracts confirming statistical significance in the results (hint: that's the opposite of lol kwerk).

Do you have any papers showing anything different? Or was it just a case of jumping on a bandwagon a bit too quickly? :p
 
Rainmaker said:
You know a reasonable amount about it, but didn't consider that there may be something in it? The guy even posted you some abstracts confirming statistical significance in the results (hint: that's the opposite of lol kwerk).

Do you have any papers showing anything different? Or was it just a case of jumping on a bandwagon a bit too quickly? :p
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you mean im suppost to read through an entire kwerk post?

yeah, it may have been the latter thing :(
sorry kwerk
 
Sunspots make you do sex


Abstract: The prominent endogenous cycle of the sun, with a period of approximately 11 years, is correlated with human conceptions. Time series methods (periodograms and periodic regression analyses) established that an approximate 11-year period exists in the data on births in the 20th century (1909–1985) in the United States and in New Zealand. Statistical comparisons indicated a reliable and direct relationship of conceptions with the approximately 11-year sunspot cycle. These findings were discussed in terms of the possible mediating role of geomagnetic disturbances and other factors that have been suggested in the literature to mediate human conception.
 
Sunspots also make you do suicide bombings


Using data on suicide terroristic attacks in Israel
Iraq and Afghanistan (1062 cases 1994-2008) it
was found that certain patterns of heliogeo-
physical factors were similar in all countries
studied, and typically accompanied such acts.
Geomagnetic activity significantly increased
(p<0.0001) at the day of attack and at the next
day following attack. Interplanetary magnetic
field polarity tends to change at the day before
attack (p<0.03) and at the day after attack
(p<0.007).
 
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