How do people deal with their inevitable death?

well for me death is what it was before i was born, which was nothing. can't really fear nothing or we'd all be afraid of going sleep to every night.

guess biggest fear is prolonged pain before death, but in the western world it'll prolly be somrthing you won't see coming or lots of funky drugs before you just drift off.

like ^ said, don't worry about things you can't change.
 
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PermaBanned said:
Nature, science and evolution are the programmers. Sexual reproduction is what makes each and every one of us unique :rolleyes:
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You cannot possibly negate Philtorrens personal belief on the basis that your own belief assumes we are all biological constructs analogous to computers.

Nature, Science and Evolution are all part of the physical Universe and that Universe may well be the God that Philtorrens believes in.

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So why do you feel qualified to answer it? :p
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Why do you feel qualified to question his beliefs in such a disparaging way?

Lightnix said:
Loved ones, dreams, aspirations, experiences, life in general... Loads of things! Faith is a red herring.
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People have 'faith' in all those things. Faith isn't a red herring, it is a state of mind.

[FnG]magnolia;19880086 said:
Real tangible things that really matter like your friends, family and other loved ones? I can see the way this thread is going to go but that's not one of your most reasoned posts.
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You have 'faith' in those 'tangible' things and their effect upon your life. Reality is only a state of perspective, you have faith that your perception of those relationships matches the reality, often as people find out, that perception and 'faith' is misplaced.


doofer said:
The knowledge that we are not mentally ill, delusional, gullible or just plain stupid. Have eternal fun with your imaginary friend though.
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Whether Philtorrens chooses to believe in a God doesn't make him delusional, gullible or stupid. Your attitude towards someone's beliefs (which he has not proselytised at all) is however, rude and presumptive.
 
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Science is not always true though, and you are just as likely to believe in something that is ultimately wrong in science as you are something true.

Science is about knowledge, and as all human knowledge is fallible and therefore uncertain there is always an element of belief and faith in the interpretation of observation and empirical measurement that creates the theories and hypothesis that are the basis for scientific study. Many of the things that we have accepted as scientific facts in the past have been superseded by different interpretations of those same observations and measurements as more information or verification has been discovered.

I have always like this quote in relation to interpretation of facts:

Science is facts; just as houses are made of stone, so is science made of facts; but a pile of stones is not a house, and a collection of facts is not necessarily science.
Jules Henri Poincaré (1854-1912) French mathematician.
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and another of my favorites which is relevant:

When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
Arthur C Clarke (1917–2008)
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Ive personally hated the idea that I "have" to follow the flow within science, like Einstein can never be proven wrong (as an example)...which is completely counter productive to the very POINT of science, some people have fallen into the same trap Religion was all those centuries ago, belief.

Albeit science has much more credibility to answering our questions about nature, it is certainly not something to be worshipped.

I've made several of my own multi-field hypothesis' on life, whether or not they are correct is not the point, its whether or not they are wrong. :p
 
StriderX said:
Ive personally hated the idea that I "have" to follow the flow within science, like Einstein can never be proven wrong (as an example)...which is completely counter productive to the very POINT of science, some people have fallen into the same trap Religion was all those centuries ago, belief.

Albeit science has much more credibility to answering our questions about nature, it is certainly not something to be worshipped.

I've made several of my own multi-field hypothesis' on life, whether or not they are correct is not the point, its whether or not they are wrong. :p
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Quite, Science is about being sceptical not about blind acceptance. Some have forgotten this.
 
Vonhelmet said:
I'll be glad when the time comes. It'll be a nice rest.
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Yes, I am growing tired of this life at just 33. I mean, I am at least living in a cool place now, Just well sucky things happen at home & I am lonely I have thought of just letting my pacemaker battery die when my parents die.
 
I think most of us are inbuilt, not to think about it.
just like we are inbuilt to quickly forget about pain, so we can continue to function. so its not really something most people really think about.
 
Edward78 said:
Yes, I am growing tired of this life at just 33. I mean, I am at least living in a cool place now, Just well sucky things happen at home & I am lonely I have thought of just letting my pacemaker battery die when my parents die.
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Its all down to how you look at it`is your glass half Empty or half full`I try not to rely on anybody but myself` ive only myself to blame when things don't turn out,Keep busy .. small accomplishments are the way to go they all add up a and make you feel good and in a better frame of mind to deal with other things,Just wish I knew this when i was 33:D
 
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like Einstein can never be proven wrong (as an example)...which is completely counter productive to the very POINT of science, some people have fallen into the same trap Religion was all those centuries ago, belief.
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Has anyone ever said this?

If someone came up with a better theory and they could prove it, im certain Einstein would be proven wrong.

Isnt the expanding universe one example of this? Einstein thought the universe was static.
 
I always used to have a fear of my own death but a few things changed my mind slightly on this. Not to say that I am relishing the thought of popping my clogs. Ultimately isn't the fear of death to do with fear of the unknown ???

If you live as much as you can while your here then you have should have no fear of your own death. Recently my Dad passed away, we had not spoken in four years or so over a stupid argument. I took the call of my Brother and by all accounts he passed over pretty peaceful. I remember the day very well, Utd had just been battered by Liverpool 4-0 at Anfield. My Dad had supposed to have been washing his car and went in to watch the match. When my Step Mum came home, he was sat in the chair like he was sleeping. I still say to this day Michael Carrick's performance caused him to have a heart attack :p

Joking aside though, this made me question the issue of death. Given my Dad suffered a lot with diabetes a lot, his last three or four years were very painful and I also have diabetes. I thought do I want my boys to suffer when I passed away ??? My feeling now is that it is not the fear of any kind of painful passing or anything like that. If you are going to get run over by a bus or die in some freak accident then so be it. My biggest fear is sitting there, knowing it's your final moments, regretting that you never did something or you could have done something to make somebody's life better.

It's that fear that drives me on to make my time and the time of the people close to me better while I am here. Then I have no regrets.
 
Don't waste time thinking and worrying about death. You cannot hide from it. It comes to us all and every second wasted thinking about death is a second that could be spent on joy.

Tick, tock, tick, tock - time is passing. Each moment brings a chance fro love, a decision to be made that will take you one way or the other. When the clock stops what is the point of feeling you wasted it all?
 
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