Nakedness and the Law
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Too bad, the law is the way it is.
He may not have intended it, but it doesn't matter, for all we know he could be lying (which the court have to take into account), after multiple offences the courts time was being wasted, so the obvious thing happened.
It isn't for us to decide who is right in the head - I might think someone is mental for wanting to have loads of body piercings etc., I might be offended when I see it, but it's too bad, there's no law against it. Same with public nudity.
You short bro?
Anyone who wants to be nekkid in Scooootlund deserves what they get tbh. He can be nude as he likes in his own property or at designated nudist resorts. I fail to see his cause
He doesn't have to prove he isn't lying, there is a presumption of innocence, at least there is supposed to be.
The obvious thing has happened - what, sentence him to another TWO YEARS in prison?
You seriously have no problem with that?
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The law doesn't prohibit public nudity, that's his cause. You can't, or shouldn't, agree with someone being locked up for a punitive amount of time simply because you don't like what they did, even though they broke no law.
FWIW yes of course I do think he is silly to have taken it this far, but I suppose it must be something he feels very strongly about.
He doesn't have to prove he isn't lying, there is a presumption of innocence at least there is supposed to be.
The obvious thing has happened - what, sentence him to another TWO YEARS in prison?
I have no problem with it, the courts already have things backlogged for years and they are becoming irrelevant in the computer age, since there's literally millions of offenders here.
They don't need to deal with some idiot constantly annoying them, plus we no longer live in the idea of innocence before guilt, everyone is guilty until proven innocent as far as corporations go and they hold the power now, at least mostly in the US, not to sure about the UK...due to the differences in political systems.
May be an exaggeration of relevance here, but whatever, it is a forum after all.
Tin foil hats in a thread about a naked man?
Really now?
http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-F...tober2009/CitigroupImbalances_October2009.pdf
Making excuses to take away your guilt of ignoring the situation is quite pathetic.
It isn't a conspiracy if they admit it out right.
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he is a berk who is not willing to compromise for the good of all
plenty of people like to be 'naturists' but they also recognise it may cause offense to others, so they limit their naturism to specific areas with like minded people then cover up when they need to mix with everybody else
thats all he has to do but he seems to think he is making apoint when in fact he is being unreasonable and doesnt recognise the fact that other people might not actually want to see his wedding tackle
all he has to do is have a pair of keks handy and slip them on when people are about then when the coast is clear he can whip them off again
freedom of expression works both ways. He should be willing to accept that not everybody agrees with his point of view and act accordingly, instead he pushes his own selfish views on others. Regardless of the fact he thinks people shouldnt be outraged or shocked by a naked man, he must concede there are places its simply no appropriate, yet he doesnt seem to give a fig about anybody else
a selfish buffoon, let him rot
plenty of people like to be 'naturists' but they also recognise it may cause offense to others, so they limit their naturism to specific areas with like minded people then cover up when they need to mix with everybody else
thats all he has to do but he seems to think he is making apoint when in fact he is being unreasonable and doesnt recognise the fact that other people might not actually want to see his wedding tackle
all he has to do is have a pair of keks handy and slip them on when people are about then when the coast is clear he can whip them off again
freedom of expression works both ways. He should be willing to accept that not everybody agrees with his point of view and act accordingly, instead he pushes his own selfish views on others. Regardless of the fact he thinks people shouldnt be outraged or shocked by a naked man, he must concede there are places its simply no appropriate, yet he doesnt seem to give a fig about anybody else
a selfish buffoon, let him rot
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I'll never understand all the uproar about sexual organs. You don't complain if you can see someones knees, and from the observers standpoint, they are functionally identical - they are a piece of the human body. The desire to not see human genitalia is conditioned, not inherited, so why should someone who wants to walk around naked suffer for what amounts to your personal opinion? And why do people worry about children seeing naked people? You will do more phycological harm to a child by teaching them there is something wrong with their body and that it should be hidden, then will ever be done by them seeing a penis or a vagina in public.
No, I'm not a naturalist, I don't want to walk round naked, if it was completely legal, I wouldn't, and I don't want to see others do so. However, I can accept that I can provide no logical reason why I don't wish to, other than the above, and no logical reason why someone else should be impeded by that.
No, I'm not a naturalist, I don't want to walk round naked, if it was completely legal, I wouldn't, and I don't want to see others do so. However, I can accept that I can provide no logical reason why I don't wish to, other than the above, and no logical reason why someone else should be impeded by that.
In what way is he harming "the good of all"?
Alternatively people could just not look if it offends them?
Freedom of expression would be people saying "He shouldn't go around naked" not locking him up because of it. In this case freedom of expression isn't going both ways, one side is having their views enforced.
S.5 POA 1986 doesn't require intent http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64
It does prima facie seem a bit daft that this eccentric is in gaol when our prisons are overcrowded, but on reflection the man simply will not obey the law of the land. He leaves the prison nude, turns up to court nude etc. What else are the authorities to do with him?
Given his custodial record, it would not appear to have been the most successful of defences!
With the past complaints generated, it would be stretching credibility by now to suggest that he believed others would not mind. I feel sorry for him really. Born in the wrong age or country.
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This is so stupid its unbelievable.
Woman, mostly famous ones, who show off their breasts at the beach, don't even get a warning or anything, well, because they are famous. Technically, it is still nudity. Yet is a woman was going round shops without a bra and a shirt, she will be stopped/fined etc. What is the difference? Nothing.
Same for nude beaches. Law applies everywhere, yet you still get nude beaches.
This guy got imprisoned because he is a guy (if it was girl, trust me, everybody would like it).
Woman, mostly famous ones, who show off their breasts at the beach, don't even get a warning or anything, well, because they are famous. Technically, it is still nudity. Yet is a woman was going round shops without a bra and a shirt, she will be stopped/fined etc. What is the difference? Nothing.
Same for nude beaches. Law applies everywhere, yet you still get nude beaches.
This guy got imprisoned because he is a guy (if it was girl, trust me, everybody would like it).
Show me the part of that where it says being nude in public is illegal.