Hazro dilemma

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I reallyyyyyyyyyyyy want a Hazro but...

I can afford either one that isn't an issue but from what I've heard and researched is that the 10bit version has a lot of input lag compared to the 8bit, but then the 8bit doesn't have a hdmi port and you can't watch blu rays etc on it (not that I watch a lot of blu rays on my pc) but the hdmi port would be nice for hooking it up to an xbox and what not.

My main game is starcraft so high input lag is a no go :/

Is their anything similar to these monitors in the same price range?
 
Jonnycakes said:
I reallyyyyyyyyyyyy want a Hazro but...

I can afford either one that isn't an issue but from what I've heard and researched is that the 10bit version has a lot of input lag compared to the 8bit, but then the 8bit doesn't have a hdmi port and you can't watch blu rays etc on it (not that I watch a lot of blu rays on my pc) but the hdmi port would be nice for hooking it up to an xbox and what not.

My main game is starcraft so high input lag is a no go :/

Is their anything similar to these monitors in the same price range?
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the A version does have higher input lag, this is true. Don't know if it's bad enough to severely affect your game, but it's there.

The C version has no HDMI. Only DVI. You can watch Blu Rays, you just need a program that will remove the HDCP requirement.

The C version has no scaler so Xbox is out of the question. If you NEED Xbox, get the A version, if not and want the lowest input lag possible, get the C version.
 
Jonnycakes said:
On which monitor? and it's probably not something you would notice without comparing the two monitors together.
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Yes, but if you need to compare a monitor side by side with another to even notice the lag then it's largely a non issue to be honest :)

I use a WA and don't notice any major lag, though i did some from a Dell so my lag probably went down!
 
DarkBahamut said:
Yes, but if you need to compare a monitor side by side with another to even notice the lag then it's largely a non issue to be honest :)

I use a WA and don't notice any major lag, though i did some from a Dell so my lag probably went down!
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That's true, if a monitor has input lag or ghosting you're going to notice it. Specially if it's severe, otherwise if you don't it really is a non issue.
 
My WC glass version arrived today . Just getting used to it now at the moment . Picture looks very smart compared to the TN panel I was using but its early days . Lot of reflections on the glass but I need to reposition it as there is a window behind me .... so haven't made my mind up on it yet . Buttons on the back dont seem to do anything and I can hear a low volume hum coming from the monitor when there is a lot of whitespace displayed e.g a website with white background . I think its coming from the internal speakers , not sure yet .

Update: The hum is coming from my external speakers connected to the PC ! The monitor has introduced this hum because it was most definitely never there before.
 
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msaunders said:
My WC glass version arrived today . Just getting used to it now at the moment . Picture looks very smart compared to the TN panel I was using but its early days . Lot of reflections on the glass but I need to reposition it as there is a window behind me .... so haven't made my mind up on it yet . Buttons on the back dont seem to do anything and I can hear a low volume hum coming from the monitor when there is a lot of whitespace displayed e.g a website with white background . I think its coming from the internal speakers , not sure yet .

Update: The hum is coming from my external speakers connected to the PC ! The monitor has introduced this hum because it was most definitely never there before.
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Now be a deary and check the lagom black level test. :D

But yeah, some of the monitors have this white hum problem, I've heard.
 
msaunders said:
what am I looking for ?
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That you can tell the 1-255 squares apart from the background and themselves. Every one should be distinguishable.

When I had my C version I couldn't tell 1, 2 and 3 apart, making dark scenes very very dark. It sucked.
 
Ok ya , its quite difficult to distinguish but I can see very slight variations in 2-4 alright but I really need to look. 1 just blends into the background (as it should?)

But , is this not something you can achieve by playing with the gamma/brightness/contrast settings ?
 
msaunders said:
Ok ya , its quite difficult to distinguish but I can see very slight variations in 2-4 alright but I really need to look. 1 just blends into the background (as it should?)

But , is this not something you can achieve by playing with the gamma/brightness/contrast settings ?
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No, none of them should blend. On my U23 I can tell every one apart.

Since you can't control anything through an OSD, you have to do it through software, and I couldn't get it to look right at all. Since these things are supposed to be factory calibrated, fail on Hazro's part.
 
Nope. The reflections are as much as I could handle already. The fact that the bezel is not flush with the display on the non-glass version is a concern however.
 
msaunders said:
Hmmm - well its not very bad but I see what you mean ... are the buttons on the back of the WC model supposed to do anything ?
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Yeah, the very top buttons control the backlight. The buttons below that control volume.

Overslop said:
Nope. The reflections are as much as I could handle already. The fact that the bezel is not flush with the display on the non-glass version is a concern however.
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Very. On my U23 there is like a 1mm gap if at all. That is acceptable. The Hazro's gap is simply unacceptable. I know they had to cheap out on parts to keep costs down, but I'd happily pay a bit extra if they fixed the damn bezel gap (also black level problem :p)
 
Calibrate your montior and run the Lagom test again. My HZ24Wi isn't so good out of the box or even eye-fiddled via the OSD but once calibrated it squashes any test like a bug.

I think anyone buying a high end monitor such as these needs to budget in a hardware calibrator as well. they can be anywhere from £50 to £100 and even the cheapest ones will do a favourable job of getting the black and luminance levels to how they should be.
 
mrk said:
Calibrate your montior and run the Lagom test again. My HZ24Wi isn't so good out of the box or even eye-fiddled via the OSD but once calibrated it squashes any test like a bug.

I think anyone buying a high end monitor such as these needs to budget in a hardware calibrator as well. they can be anywhere from £50 to £100 and even the cheapest ones will do a favourable job of getting the black and luminance levels to how they should be.
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Unfortunately, I have no idea about calibrators. I'd assumed since it was factory calibrated (like the U23) it would be able to at least display the black level properly. More expense. :o

What would you recommend? An i2? Also, is the C version without an OSD fine for using a calibrator with? I'd assume it'd do everything through software so no need for an OSD, correct?
 
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