Another Tyres Thread

Frozennova · 30 Aug 2011 at 19:17

I'm looking at 4 new tyres shortly for my set of refurb'd wheels.

Car is a 1989 Golf
Tyres 195/50/15

Looking to spend upto £50 a corner excluding fitting.

Howard · 30 Aug 2011 at 19:19

davy89 · 30 Aug 2011 at 19:28

Currently got Dunlop Sport Maxx's on the 225, recommend them. Had continentals on my 172 and wasn't really that fond, seemed really soft and not even particularly grippy!

loltim · 30 Aug 2011 at 19:30

kumho ku31

sampo · 30 Aug 2011 at 19:37

+1 for Toyo T1-R, fantastic on light cars (like old hot hatches). Sidewalls too soft for anything heavy.

bledd · 30 Aug 2011 at 20:26

Hankook Ventus S1 Evo
Hankook V12 Evo
Uniroyal Rainsport2
Bridgestone ER300
Michelin PE2
Continental Premium Contact 2

All good tyres

It's a very cheap tyre size

KU31 doesn't exist anymore, unless your local place has stock.. I ate through my fronts down to nothing in less than 9000 miles though.

Frozennova · 30 Aug 2011 at 20:41

Thanks for the help.

Original thought was T1Rs but as Id seen people say about soft sidewalls I thought I'd give them a miss, this lead to Uniroyals as I have 2 on the front of my current wheels and have been fairly impressed with them.

Was going to go with KU31s before I started refurbing the wheels but knew they we're being/are discontinued,

Looks like T1Rs it is.

Fr0dders · 30 Aug 2011 at 20:53

The Hankook S1 EVOs came 5th in last years Auto Express Tyre Test.

They appear to be very decent mid range tyres.

[TW]Fox · 30 Aug 2011 at 20:54

MrLOL said:
The Hankook S1 EVOs came 5th in last years Auto Express Tyre Test.

They appear to be very decent mid range tyres.

Would you not rather buy the ones that came 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th?

Fr0dders · 30 Aug 2011 at 21:01

actually

Looking at :

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m53b0s99p...es_-_15_inch_R15_inch_-_195_50_15_195_50_R_15

Most of our recommendations are useless. None of the models in that i really recognise or have read about !

I've no idea if the £52 goodyear excellence is better than the £40 Hankook S1 evo.

bledd · 30 Aug 2011 at 22:11

[TW]Fox;19955531 said:
Would you not rather buy the ones that came 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th?

They also came 1st in the Autobild 2011 test..

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2011-Autobild-Max-Performance-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm

[TW]Fox · 30 Aug 2011 at 22:14

Wow, those are impressive results I must admit.

Though not sure why there are so many discontinued products in that 2011 test? WHere is CS5? Where is Assymetric 2?

Good to see the ripoff PS3's near the bottom as per usual though...

Fr0dders · 30 Aug 2011 at 22:37

That autobild test is very interesting.

Compare with the Auto Express one :

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/259498/verdict.html

That finds the Hankook S1 evo 5th, behind the Dunlop Sport Maxx TT, the Conti Sport 3 the Pilot Sport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1.

Yet the Autobild shows the opposite, with the S1 Evo coming first ahead of all of them ! That and the Auto Express Test had the Hankook 8th in wet breaking, but the highest score of all in the Autobild test ....

Gibbo · 30 Aug 2011 at 22:56

[TW]Fox;19956207 said:
Wow, those are impressive results I must admit.

Though not sure why there are so many discontinued products in that 2011 test? WHere is CS5? Where is Assymetric 2?

Good to see the ripoff PS3's near the bottom as per usual though...

I think Michelin did a dirty trick with the PS3, I mean why call it PS3 when it's not the replacement for PS2 but actually replaces another model, PE2 I think, yet most will just expect it to be a PS2 replacement and expect as good if not better performance when it clearly does not perform.

Yes the PS3 is nothing special.

bledd · 31 Aug 2011 at 02:12

MrLOL said:
That autobild test is very interesting.

Compare with the Auto Express one :

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/259498/verdict.html

That finds the Hankook S1 evo 5th, behind the Dunlop Sport Maxx TT, the Conti Sport 3 the Pilot Sport 3 and the Goodyear Eagle F1.

Yet the Autobild shows the opposite, with the S1 Evo coming first ahead of all of them ! That and the Auto Express Test had the Hankook 8th in wet breaking, but the highest score of all in the Autobild test ....

/shrug

Different car, different conditions

Dr. Pain · 31 Aug 2011 at 02:45

[TW]Fox;19955531 said:
Would you not rather buy the ones that came 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th?

Why would you rely on a magazine test?

Its all about politics with these tests, they only test a tiny fraction of the decent tyres out there.

They are so biased.

Mind you, at least they cover the rolling resistance even if its such an ambiguous figure.

Lopéz · 31 Aug 2011 at 07:32

We ran KU31s on the Golf (Mk2 GTI) and found it went through them quite a bit faster than Eagle F-1s and with less grip as well. It's currently on Toyo Proxes PX4, which seem just fine in the wet and dry, but they have only covered around 1,000 miles so can't comment on wear rate yet.

Lopéz · 31 Aug 2011 at 07:34

[TW]Fox;19955531 said:
Would you not rather buy the ones that came 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th?

Depends if they are available in the required size I suppose. 13-15" rims are rare on modern performance cars so you don't get many decent new tyres in the range.

Frozennova · 31 Aug 2011 at 07:57

Lopéz said:
We ran KU31s on the Golf (Mk2 GTI) and found it went through them quite a bit faster than Eagle F-1s and with less grip as well. It's currently on Toyo Proxes PX4, which seem just fine in the wet and dry, but they have only covered around 1,000 miles so can't comment on wear rate yet.

Ta Lopez

Can anyone comment on how the T1Rs cope with heat, I might be doing a day a curborough and remember DreXel saying the KU31s we're like mush after a couple of laps on the track.

[TW]Fox · 31 Aug 2011 at 08:12

Dr. Pain said:
Why would you rely on a magazine test?

Because I wouldnt trust people on the internet who are far more susceptible to bias or plain lack of knowledge?

If you gave me a car and 3 different sets of tyres and told me to go away and properly and objectively rate all of them I very much doubt I'd have the ability to do this properly, so why would most other people? There will be people who very much DO have this ability but its hard to sort them from the leagues of people bleating about how tyre B 'sticks like stuff to a blanket' when in reality the perception they have of this tyre is skewed by the fact its all they could afford anyway.

Rather than the best way to pick a tyre, proper tests are merely the least bad way to pick a tyre.