What PC Gamers Imagine.

Fairly written article, I agree with most of the points he makes if Im honest.
 
OP is a troll with the usual RSS '<link> WAT U THINK GUIZ?' thread. Article is nonsense.

But it's time they stopped pretending that they hold any real influence over where the future of gaming is going.
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They don't; everyone who seen the earliest of onlive demos immediately knew that was the glimpse of the future of gaming. As well as being the combined death of PC and Console gaming as we currently know it.

The entire article is basically imposing a viewpoint on the reader that all PC Gamers think their platform is the be all and end all of gaming and consoles will one day flitter away. Which they don't. A few tards on forums might say such things, but if you're really going to write articles in response to irrational randoms on forums then 'Joel Johnson' needs to find a new line of work.

And that is leaving aside the completely spurious pie charts presented that you're meant to take as even remotely being a representation of the market shares.
 
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Didn't like it. The only thing I found remotely interesting was his mention of standardisation of the PC platform. The rest seemed to be just an opinion with lots of information thrown out that just had no credible sources. He also seems to be fall back on the idea that "things will change in the future" which I just think is glaringly obvious as technology advances.
 
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Article is nonsense.



They don't; everyone who seen the earliest of onlive demos immediately knew that was the glimpse of the future of gaming. As well as being the combined death of PC and Console gaming as we currently know it.

The entire article is basically imposing a viewpoint on the reader that all PC Gamers think their platform is the be all and end all of gaming and consoles will one day flitter away. Which they don't. A few tards on forums might say such things, but if you're really going to write articles in response to irrational randoms on forums then 'Joel Johnson' needs to find a new line of work.

And that is leaving aside the completely spurious pie charts presented that you're meant to take as even remotely being a representation of the market shares.

Also Blitzyuk, what do you think? or I'm just going to take this as the usual troll.
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Onlive/Streaming services will never kill PC gaming.

Fact of the matter is most of us enthusiast would still maintain powerful systems even without games. We use them enough and demand power elsewhere to still have the platform even if gaming WAS to die on it. As long as the platform exists why would games ever disappear? (Let's face it, Personal Computers as we know them are not going anywhere)
 
Well I hope nothings changes, everything that article says totally sucks, I hope that is not our future! I like to build a high end gaming rig, I like to install games, I like those games to be patched, I like them to run with amazing graphics and sound, and I like to play them with a keyboard and mouse, and I also like to mod the games and install addons/tweaks etc.

And also the multiplayer experience, dedicated servers, voice communication with team speak/ventrillo etc.

That article makes it sound like a big wave of new technology is going to suddenly come over us literally over night and sweep across the world and change the world forever like desktop PC's did back in the day and windows operating system...the article makes out like the whole world is going to change...soon we'll just stream games to our TV's and play Crysis 3 on the TV in the living room in 3D from an online cloud and be using motion sensing like the wii/xbox connect/playstation move!! pffff!
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The day PC tinkering and 'hardcore' PC gaming dies is the day I stop playing video games.
 
Thong is neither nvidia or amd to a lesser extent can afford to not produce new cards to entice us to upgrade. It's their core business and they rely on it for turnover and regular income.
 
Spektor said:
OP is a troll with the usual RSS '<link> WAT U THINK GUIZ?' thread. Article is nonsense.



They don't; everyone who seen the earliest of onlive demos immediately knew that was the glimpse of the future of gaming. As well as being the combined death of PC and Console gaming as we currently know it.

The entire article is basically imposing a viewpoint on the reader that all PC Gamers think their platform is the be all and end all of gaming and consoles will one day flitter away. Which they don't. A few tards on forums might say such things, but if you're really going to write articles in response to irrational randoms on forums then 'Joel Johnson' needs to find a new line of work.

And that is leaving aside the completely spurious pie charts presented that you're meant to take as even remotely being a representation of the market shares.
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You're right and wrong, the article is bullcrap, but you're wrong that pc gamers won't shape games, pc games, be they indie, or huge budget things are still where ALL the real innovation happens.

People are talking about mobile games and crap on facebook like its new and innovative, its not, its just old gash being presented in a new way.

They are the games we played as kids years ago, brought to people who didn't play those games years ago, people will get bored of angry birds, but interested in gaming, and move onto something more complex........ all these crappy platforms are doing, is generating more customers who will eventually want complex and interesting games.


Mobiles replacing consoles, is laughable, no matter how much power you can get in a handheld device...... whatever you can put in a console will be 10 times more powerful. Why would people want to spend £800 on a smartphone with the power of a full blown computer, when you can buy a £400 computer to use when you want to use a computer, and a £100 smart phone that can do all the things you want a smart phone to do.

Why pay insanely more, for something you will use part of the time, when its cheaper, and easier to buy two separate products, answer is, they won't.

Theres a reason netbooks went through the roof, then died a death, and tablets went through the roof, and are now being recognised as entirely pointless, etc, etc. People will buy iphones in 5 years with the capability of wirelessly streaming really good looking gaming content to a tv and playing games, but then they'll go to a mates house and see an Xbox 1080 that has hugely hugely better graphics, better games and a better experience, and they WON'T buy the next top end iphone, but their next smartphone will do e-mail, calls, the web, and let them watch porn, but thats it.

Also onlive, its so god damned pathetic it makes me cry for humanity. If anyone in the house opens a web page it tells me the latency is bad and it won't connect, when its running perfectly, its laggy, looks like arse and is a completely rubbish experience in the few games I've tried.

We're decades away from the internet infrastructure to lower latency and improve throughput enough to let everyone stream video/games/tv at the same time without the network going to crap.

Pc gaming will always be there, because pc's will always be there. daft tablets, awful netbooks, and rubbish onlive are passing fads. Having a computer in your home is simply part of modern life.

Also as for the laptop review that supposedly sparked his want to write this article because people called him on his views on it. Ridiculous, buy a ridiculously overpriced gaming laptop, get half the gaming power, in a loud, irritating box that for real gaming should have a real screen and separate keyboard added to it on top of the mouse. Now normal pc's, you want to upgrade the gpu to still have the top graphics, £200, Laptop you want to upgrade the graphics, new £1700 laptop, new battery, new cpu, new hdd, new screen, new shell, new dvd drive, new memory, etc, etc, etc.

Gaming doesn't need high end anything, a midrange card every year enables just about every game in superb detail, laptop gpu's that only match the desktop midrange cost twice as much....... how on earth he can pretend that is "good for gaming" is laughable.
 
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Second person to reply as if I'm talking about this time next year everyone ditching everything for onlive... as the article was talking about the 'future' I was thinking it was talking about much further than the next 10 years.

As services like OnLive expand (not just within gaming, but all kinds of applicatons) and the broadband infrastructure develops to cope with mass demand; the need to have any form of mid to high end dedicated processing power within your home to do whatever will diminish vastly until one day it won't be seen at all.
 
I disagree with a lot of what he said.

Especially the part about people not wanting to tinker. I know a lot of people who choose to buy Android phones specifically for the fact that they are almost built for tinkering. Just like that, playing with PC hardware has become an enjoyable past time in itself and it's not going to go away just because of OnLive.

It'd be like saying car modification is going to stop because VW brought out a Golf GTi - stupid.

:edit: Right, we're talking about 15+ years in the future? No one can know what will happen then, but I guess it's very likely that will happen eventually yes. This is surely obvious?
 
Interesting article, some if it seems on the money, some of it not so much.

Definitely points out so of the unrealistic views that certain members here seem to hold. :p PC gaming going to change. not necessarily the tinkering part though. I don't think anybody knows which way for certain, but all the people sitting there stubbornly determined to not change with it are going to be left behind imo. :o
 
Interesting article, thanks.

Recently there was an interview with John Carmack in which something he said made me wonder if we are only one console generation away from the very-near-death of PC Gaming.

He said that gaming PCs are up to ten times faster than current generation consoles. But they only perform about 3x times faster because of all the inevitable overheads associated with the DirectX, OpenGL and PC architecture.

I only recently bought a PS3 because I wanted to buy GT5, but until then I'd avoided consoles altogether. A combination of my PS3 experience (it's a surprisingly impressive bit of tech, given the price) and Carmack's comments have made me quite concerned that the PC's days as a gaming platform might be numbered.

I do want to be wrong, but I do most of my gaming (with no real compromises) on a 3 year old PC, so I'm not as convinced of its survival as I used to be. I'm not even sure that niche hobbies like flight and racing sims (which I run on a 2500k system) will be able to resist the need to follow the market into faster, much more efficient console hardware. And being able to use a mouse and keyboard for some genres is already possible if devs choose to support it.

It's certainly an interesting time to be a PC enthusiast. The consoles are eating away at the gaming side of the equation, and the iPad (etc.) is eating away at the mainstream computing side of things. Throw in the fact that big names like HP seem to be backing away from mainstream PC computing and you start to wonder how long we've got.

I just hope the PS4 has Steam and a PC emulator. :-)
 
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I think a lot of people here dont realise we are infact a Minority.

Im one of the only people I know who game on a Desktop PC, everyone else I know owns a laptop and still thinks COD on the Xbox is the best thing since sliced bread.

I love building and tweaking my PC but I definitely see some sense in the article.
 
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I think a lot of people here dont realise we are infact a Minority.

Im one of the only people I know who game on a Desktop PC, everyone else I know owns a laptop and still thinks COD on the Xbox is the best thing since sliced bread.

I love building and tweaking my PC but I definitely see some sense in the article.
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It is also a generational thing - a younger group of gamers who have less disposable income and were introduced to gaming in the PS1/PS2-generation. Basically a captive market.

The article itself is big on talk, but offers very little in terms of a way forward, or support for its theory on what will happen in the future.

The most important thing is that as long as a market exists for a product/gaming environment, there will still be supply for it.

On the flipside of some of the comments posted above, I am on the verge of selling both my PS3 and Xbox/Kinect because they see virtually no gaming use compared to my PC.
 
I don't care, life goes on and I adjust.

But the article is just a load of tosh and I can't even bring myself to argue every other paragraph.
 
The article is horse carp. Everyone knows the only thing that will kill PC gaming is a massive EM burst from the sun. But in the event of that happening the death of PC gaming will be the least of our worries.

Everyone will always need PCs in some shape or form and so PC gaming will always exist in some shape or form.

Also to Andrew_McP by the time the new consoles come out PCs will be more powerful. Every new console generation since the dawn of console gaming has heralded "the death of PC gaming" but we are still here going strong. As much as Microsoft and Sony dont want to admit it there are many people out there who enjoy using a mouse and keyboard and playing games with good graphics/physics/textures, or those who enjoy modding or developing indie titles. If they gave the consoles the ability to use a M+K and allow modding and development then you may as well buy a PC that you can then upgrade and does all the same stuff.
 
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Yeah I saw this last night, you only have to look at his other comments towards users to see how uninformed he is.
You only have to look at the statistics he pulled out of his arse to see how much horse**** it is.


I think it would be better to not go to the article as he is simply getting more hits from it.
 
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