Shut up dmpoole, that's not the case at all, just your stupid bitterness because you were too stupid to understand a disabled parking only sign, that you got out of on a technicality.
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Shut up dmpoole, that's not the case at all, just your stupid bitterness because you were too stupid to understand a disabled parking only sign, that you got out of on a technicality.
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He's bitter because he *didnt* get out of it on a technicality. He paid the fine meaning now he's found out he could get out of it on a technicality, he can't because its already paid.
As the others have said, ignore it, do not make contact, and never admit to being the driver at the time.
If things get more serious pop over to www.PePiPoo.com for advice.
If things get more serious pop over to www.PePiPoo.com for advice.
bin the ticket and move on
By all means ignore it, but don't complain when the law gets changed to allow private companies to enforce parking restrictions more stringently
So what do you mean by that? Ignore it and feel the full wrath later on?
My only worry is that I have to park down there every day
I'd more worry if they started introducing clamping for infringements - they do that where I live, and it's a complete pain in the ass.
Private parking tickets are effectively fishing invoices, nothing more.
Nah, it's just that if everyone starts flouting private parking controls on a 'technicality' and on the basis that business > people when it comes to lobbying influence, I wouldn't be overly surprised when a law comes in to allow proper enforcement of private parking regulations (I think one is in the works now)
But as for now, bin it
A guy I work with got a ticket for being in a Mcdonalds carpark for to long. They only give you an hour which is fine for popping in and out but try having a meal with kids and queueing when its busy, just ridiculous!
Anyway, he wrote back saying he did n't see the sign, they wrote back saying tough luck and they were going to charge him more if he did n't pay within a set time. He wrote back saying he would n't pay, they then cut the fine if he paid there and then, he still refused and eventually, after about 10 letters back and forth and threats of being summoned to court, they seem to have given up.
Anyway, he wrote back saying he did n't see the sign, they wrote back saying tough luck and they were going to charge him more if he did n't pay within a set time. He wrote back saying he would n't pay, they then cut the fine if he paid there and then, he still refused and eventually, after about 10 letters back and forth and threats of being summoned to court, they seem to have given up.
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Don't let your own terrible decisions influence what you advise the OP to do in this case. Put it in the bin and move on.
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It would be really nice if people could actually read before they post.
Here's a recap
1) There were no lines on the road - nowhere - zilch - zero markings - nothing.
2) There was a sign saying Disabled Badge Holders Only Free Parking (with no space anywhere drawn out on the road)
3) This made the road look like abled bodied people pay and disabled don't
3) Stoke Council went up to view the area after my mate told them on the Tuesday
4) They knew they had cocked up and got the painters out and drew all the lines in
5) I paid my fine and can't get the money back because I didn't follow protocol.
It would have been great for somebody like [TW]Fox to say :
Actually dmpoole I can see what went on now after what Stoke Council have done and reading DavidMarq.
However that is something he is incapable of ever doing.
[FnG]magnolia;20048082 said:
See above and I honestly thought you were one of the better posters on here who actually read through threads without filling your own holes in.
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You can bleat on about the lines all you like, the sign would have been clear enough to anyone else with a pair of brain cells to rub together.
I'm perfectly capable of reading, i'm well aware of the situation, you've described it enough times. None of it makes me think you were anything other than mind boggingly stupid to assume it meant what you thought it meant and park right in front of it.
You seem to assume that people haven't read what you've said, when in reality they have, you just refuse to accept that everyone thinks you were daft to do what you did.
I'm perfectly capable of reading, i'm well aware of the situation, you've described it enough times. None of it makes me think you were anything other than mind boggingly stupid to assume it meant what you thought it meant and park right in front of it.
You seem to assume that people haven't read what you've said, when in reality they have, you just refuse to accept that everyone thinks you were daft to do what you did.
We all know what went on. You parked in a disabled space that to everyone else was obviously a disabled space purely by virtue of the admittedly crappy sign. Stoke Council had screwed up by not ensuring the bay was fully marked up and the sign was worded in accordance with legislation but you also screwed up because lets face it, it was obvious to everyone else from the sign alone that it was a disabled bay.
I notice you ran off when I provided you with quotes from the Stoke Council website which contradicted your story about how your mate reckons not all disabled on street parking in Stoke is free and that therefore it was reasonable to expect the sign to only refer to whether you had to pay or not, not whether you could park there or not.
To the letter of the law, you could have got off without paying but in the spirit of the law you were bang to rights.
Just like if you find a double yellow line thats not correctly terminted with a T bar at the end, to the letter of the law you can park there but in the spirit of the law everyone knows you shouldn't.
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[TW]Fox;20048386 said:
There were zero markings, you make it sound like there was some markings there, there wasn't.
There was no space and I don't know why you keep saying there was.
[TW]Fox;20048386 said:
I didn't see it however YOU ARE WRONG.
I never mentioned disabled street parking but car park parking.
There are many car parks in stoke where disabled badge holders have to pay.
Lets reverse the abled/disabled roles on that particular road in my OP.
Disabled badge holders have to pay if they don't park in that one disabled bay that has now been marked.
My blue badge mates said they would expect to park anywhere up that street without paying because that is what the sign says but now the bay has been marked they will be fined if they don't pay.
Funnily enough they can park on the opposite side of the road on yellow lines for 3 hours.
In Stoke if there is a disabled bay marking on the road they don't have to pay but, in some places, if they park outside of that bay they have to pay.
My wife has been fined for this when having her Mums blue badge in the window because she also, like you, thought she could park for free.
Not true.