City's influence over Conservatives laid bare by research into donations

Explains Osborne's obsession with cutting to 50% tax rate and opposition to the EU Tobin tax.

You don't think the opposition to the EU Tobin tax has more to do with the disproportionate impact it will have on the UK? (Something like 80% of the money it raises would come from the UK).
 
And equally I'm sure that there are many shareholders who don't want their company donating to political parties. But that isn't even put to a vote, unlike union dues to parties. And at least the union donations are right out there in the open.
Most people aren't coerced in to being shareholders.
 
So neither would be anything to do with actual evidence that they don't work very well...

Just because the left is ideology obsessed and will ignore evidence, doesn't mean the other side should behave the same way...

No evidence has been created yet on either count. But just because the right is money obsessed and big business uber allen incarnate and claims what it wants to be evidence as evidence, doesn't mean the other side or the moderates in the middle should behave the same way...

Aside from that, the very, very vast majority of entrepreneurs know they have hardly a hope in hell of ever breaking in to the 50% tax bracket so if it really does cause a drag on new business start ups, that indicates an amazing amount of delusion in entrepreneurs.
 
I think the ratio would be surprising! Maybe it's my exposure to a more youthful section of society skewing it, but I would say most of the people I know that contribute to Unions do so only because they were told they should, and generally oppose most of the action their Unions have taken on their behalf. I have a particular friend in mind who considers himself a Conservative yet is a fully paid up member of one of the Labour party's top donors. It's a bizarre situation but I think one that's becoming increasingly common.
 
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No evidence has been created yet on either count. But just because the right is money obsessed and big business uber allen incarnate and claims what it wants to be evidence as evidence, doesn't mean the other side or the moderates in the middle should behave the same way...

Aside from that, the very, very vast majority of entrepreneurs know they have hardly a hope in hell of ever breaking in to the 50% tax bracket so if it really does cause a drag on new business start ups, that indicates an amazing amount of delusion in entrepreneurs.

Check what happened when Sweden introduced a tobin tax...

Anything short of a global tax will not work, and the government is absolutely right to refuse any attempt to cripple the city of london to pay for the crisis of the politically driven Euro that we aren't even a member of.
 
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Check what happened when Sweden introduced a tobin tax...

Anything short of a global tax will not work, and the government is absolutely right to refuse any attempt to cripple the city of london to pay for the crisis of the politically driven Euro that we aren't even a member of.

Crippling the city of london, what BS.

Are you aware of the Robin Hood tax movement, PR fronted by Bill Nighy?

http://robinhoodtax.org/


You are as right wing as you have been proved to be inconsistant in your beliefs Dolph. You pander to what ever line agrees with your agenda while ignoring the cold hard truth and i can not take anything you post seriously
 
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Are you aware of the Robin Hood tax movement, PR fronted by Bill Nighy?

http://robinhoodtax.org/

You are as right wing as you have been proved to be inconsistant in your beliefs Dolph. You pander to what ever line agrees with your agenda while ignoring the cold hard truth and i can not take anything you post seriously

I'm aware of the movement, are you aware of what has happened in the past when a country or area has unilaterally created a robin hood or tobin tax? Or does reality not matter in the world of the left?
 
They do, but that does not mean to say my statement is incorrect; I personally know people who do not want to be in the Union, let alone donate to the political fund, but are peer pressured in to doing so and pay up fully. I would wager it's very unlikely that any of the money that was donated to the Conservatives from the City is so morally dubious ;)

OK out of curiosity, why would you NOT want to be in a union if you have the option? They look out for you, they make sure you can't get sacked without cause or taken advantage of by your employer, they frequently provide good pension schemes and other negotiated benefits at prices that you couldn't even touch if you were buying them as an individual, it's surely a win-win isn't it?

Not saying that union membership should be compulsory by any means, just want to understand why you wouldn't want to be in it.

And before you say "they never did anything for me personally", bear in mind, if you work in a place where a significant proportion of the workforce are unionised, you'll be enjoying by default the same wages and other benefits that the union members do, because if the union successfully negotiates a payrise for its members an employer can't really pay the 30% of his workforce who are non-members less can he? It'd be illegal.
 
It doesn't really mean much without context, though. For example, Luxembourg is ranked twenty third in the WEF's Global Competitiveness Index, compared to our position of tenth. Even the United States, with one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world is fifth.
The US does have Delaware, and a substantial number of companies are officially registered there. You also have to factor in that competitiveness is not just a product of tax rates; US employment regulations, for example, provide for a very flexible labour force that substantially adds to it.
 
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because they are a disgusting organisation that doesn't have it's members best interests at heart, but I've still joined for the benefits you have outlined.

I mean they wanted to strike with a ~2% above inflation Pay rise, when everyone else was getting nothing or being made redundant.
How is that in our best interests.
 
Shocker as tory supporters donate money to tories :O. Labour rapes anyone looking to earn a decent wage, is it really surprising that those with spare cash around would donate to tories?
 
You don't think the opposition to the EU Tobin tax has more to do with the disproportionate impact it will have on the UK? (Something like 80% of the money it raises would come from the UK).

Last I read it was still being decided where the money will go (stay domestic, directly to the EU or to an EU bailout fund). Has this changed?

Check what happened when Sweden introduced a tobin tax...

Is this really a good enough argument considering 7 of the G8 (or 16 of the G20) have implemented a FTT which do not share the Swedish experience? Incidentally the failings of which are being addressed as part of the EU-wide FTT.
 
because they are a disgusting organisation that doesn't have it's members best interests at heart, but I've still joined for the benefits you have outlined.

I mean they wanted to strike with a ~2% above inflation Pay rise, when everyone else was getting nothing or being made redundant.
How is that in our best interests.

I don't know the specifics of the strike you're referring to or the particular union you're in, but surely it's not fair to tarnish them all with the same brush?
 
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