Dale Farm Cleared Tomorrow?

My sisters best friend is a left hippy and I had such a heated argument with her over this I had to walk away for the fear of actually screaming at her.

"they have every right to be there" was her answer to everything.

I saw/heard ethnic cleansing being thrown around, maybe these people should see what that is actually like?! disgusting that they even think about using that term.

You can't have a discussion with someone like that due to their lack of knowledge, reasoning and logic. They hang around with like minded people who's idea of a coherent argument is saying how they "feel" and how cruel everything is.

Because they get a warm fuzzy caring feeling inside, they don't need to worry about being correct or even on the right page.
 
How exactly?

The gov are breaking the law (damage to property, human rights issues) to move the protesters who are merely occupying space outside.

The police are not breaking the law. You do not have a right to live wherever the hell you like. If I build an extension to a house and go to the council and say "heres my new extension, deal with it" they will probably say "we are going to knock it down, deal with it".

If you build where you are not allowed, it can be pulled down. If you choose to use a friends property that is legal as a hiding place, they can damage the property to get to you.
 
How exactly?

The gov are breaking the law (damage to property, human rights issues) to move the protesters who are merely occupying space outside.

by obstructing a court issued eviction and the police and putting themselves in danger. the police have the right to remove said obstruction. in this case the lock and the mongrel.

in the same way they can knock your door down (the obstruction) if your flushing drugs down the toilet (the illegality)

oh 7 arrested now.
 
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How exactly?

The gov are breaking the law (damage to property, human rights issues) to move the protesters who are merely occupying space outside.

they are not just occupying space outside they are BREAKING THE LAW by having built "homes" (and I use the term loosely) when they did not have planning permission and have been told for weeks/months/years they are in the wrong.
They have been offered other places to live and have turned them down.

A policeman cutting a chain is the least of anyone's worries and if you are so concerned with people breaking a law you should have a look at why they are actually being evicted.

/rant.
 
they are not just occupying space outside they are BREAKING THE LAW by having built "homes" (and I use the term loosely) when they did not have planning permission and have been told for weeks/months/years they are in the wrong.
They have been offered other places to live and have turned them down.

A policeman cutting a chain is the least of anyone's worries and if you are so concerned with people breaking a law you should have a look at why they are actually being evicted.

/rant.

I was mainly on about the protesters but if i bought a piece of land and made a full sized house with all the same materials but it's on wheels, would that be acceptable?

What's the difference between that and something without wheels, both are large structures that can't be easily moved.
 
I will from now on, he did call me a troll twice though which could be considered trolling itself, at the very least he was getting personal which isn't ok.



What's stopping the police doing their business though and clearing the actual travellers, those protesters are just hanging about, not exactly in the way are they?

Doesn't the court order rule the removal of all persons and demolition of the illegally built homes? If so the protesters are in the way because their lives are endangered, demolition sites are unsafe see. The gov are not committing a crime because a court has ruled their actions legal, in fact the gov and police are the only ones acting lawfully through this whole thing the last TEN years.

In other words, GTFO you hippy troll
 
I was mainly on about the protesters but if i bought a piece of land and made a full sized house with all the same materials but it's on wheels, would that be acceptable?

What's the difference between that and something without wheels, both are large structures that can't be easily moved.

If you intend to live on that land you are breaking the law.
I dont care what you live in, It could be a giant hamster wheel for all i care.
Deal with it.
 
I was mainly on about the protesters but if i bought a piece of land and made a full sized house with all the same materials but it's on wheels, would that be acceptable?

What's the difference between that and something without wheels, both are large structures that can't be easily moved.

with or without wheels you would still need planning permission. which they dont have for half of the site so half of the site is being taken down.

what is hard to understand?
 
Doesn't the court order rule the removal of all persons and demolition of the illegally built homes? If so the protesters are in the way because their lives are endangered, demolition sites are unsafe see. The gov are not committing a crime because a court has ruled their actions legal, in fact the gov and police are the only ones acting lawfully through this whole thing the last TEN years.

In other words, GTFO you hippy troll

We've got bigger problems if it's ok for the gov to make up laws or be above them on a whim.
 
I was mainly on about the protesters but if i bought a piece of land and made a full sized house with all the same materials but it's on wheels, would that be acceptable?

What's the difference between that and something without wheels, both are large structures that can't be easily moved.

They did not have planning permission. If you have a piece of land and get planning permission for a 100 foot penis shaped house you can build it legally. You can't just knock a home up wherever you like.

If you don't have a clue why they are being evicted then its best not to keep arguing about it. The protestors were getting involved in the violence and if one police officer is hurt as a result of this I hope they put the whole lot of them on the north coast of Scotland in a bunch of tents.
 
We've got bigger problems if it's ok for the gov to make up laws or be above them on a whim.

Please stop. He has just explained why they can remove the people and the property legally and from that you took the idea that the government are making up laws.

They are there illegally. A court order for their removal allows the police to do this. That is how it works. You are just making a fool out of yourself at the moment.

What do you think a search warrant is? The police just doing what they want because a court says it sounds like a good crack? They can't just come into my house without probable cause but if they obtain a warrant, they are legally allowed to. Its not the courts doing anything odd, thats how it works. You ask for an eviction order and the court looks at the situation and passes judgement.
 
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with or without wheels you would still need planning permission. which they dont have for half of the site so half of the site is being taken down.

what is hard to understand?

How can something with wheels need planning permission, its a vehicle and exists already, theres nothing to need planning permission for.
 
How can something with wheels need planning permission, its a vehicle and exists already, theres nothing to need planning permission for.

I'm going to close my web browser now, are you happy? If I leave it open I'm looking to get banned from OCUK for what I post next.
 
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