Poll: Rebels rolling into Tripoli

[Spektor]

People are missing the point thinking its on grounds of squemishness that i object, thats not it at all. But i'm out of this thread gg

You're advocating censorship however, regardless of your reasons. My stance to anyone doing so is always 'get to ****'.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Interesting view point, religion of peace!

Interesting view point indeed. Loved by 95% of the population? Really?

 

[cheets64]

Interesting view point indeed. Loved by 95% of the population? Really?

His downfall was ******* off the west, like many oil rich diactors have done in the passed and they have paid dearly.

Just been sick, just seen Cameron saying remember IRA victims, Lockerbie, Yvone Fletcher

but wait

Handshake

So now he is a bad man, why were world leaders so happy to take shake his hand.

 

[[TW]Fox]

So now he is a bad man, why were world leaders so happy to take shake his hand.

What purpose would refusing to try and reconcile with him have served?

 

[Glaucus]

Oh dear basing it on handshakes.

Handshakes are pretty essential and you have to do them regardless.

At least look up some deals or something. I'm sure there's plenty.

 

[Spektor]

His downfall was ******* off the west, like many oil rich diactors have done in the passed and they have paid dearly.

Just been sick, just seen Cameron saying remember IRA victims, Lockerbie, Yvone Fletcher

but wait

Handshake

So now he is a bad man, why were world leaders so happy to take shake his hand.

Black & white view of the world much?

 

[awaybreaktoday]

Well it looks like Sky and the Daily Mail were correct on this one.


Do we know yet if he was killed in an Air Attack / evading capture, or whether he was captured alive and then murdered?

The BBC was the one that was right, he was captured alive as we have seen and then he was shot 5 minutes after being captured.

 

[FragnaticDeath]

He has done too many bad stuff for me to even feel sorry for the way they treated his body. Monsters deserve to be treated as monsters. No excuse.

 

[awaybreaktoday]

He has done too many bad stuff for me to even feel sorry for the way they treated his body. Monsters deserve to be treated as monsters. No excuse.

Monster is still too good for him.

 

[Biohazard]

Oh dear basing it on handshakes.

Handshakes are pretty essential and you have to do them regardless.

At least look up some deals or something. I'm sure there's plenty.

Would you shake hands with someone accused of mass murder?

I wouldn't. There is a certain moral hypocrisy in all of this, it has to be said.

 

[Glaucus]

Would you shake hands with someone accused of mass murder?

I wouldn't. There is a certain moral hypocrisy in all of this, it has to be said.

If I was a lawyer of course I would.
Same reason if you a re a political leader you have to shake hands when in negotiations or state visits. There is nothing wrong with these handshakes.
If you want to show hypocrisy, look for deals and such like, I'm sure they exist. That's the nature of the world and humans.

 

[Biohazard]

If I was a lawyer of course I would.
Same reason if you a re a political leader you have to shake hands when in negotiations or state visits. There is nothing wrong with these handshakes.
If you want to show hypocrisy, look for deals and such like, I'm sure they exist. That's the nature of the world and humans.

You aren't a lawyer though I'm guessing.

There is everything wrong with these "handshakes".

You don't shake hands with people that you should be trying to bring to account for their heinous crimes against humanity.

The deals are irrelevent to this narrow scoped contention but they are of course shameful in them self such as the prisoner transfer deal in exchange for trade, however displays of friendship and gestures of goodwill towards someone who would brutalise civilians at home and murder innocents there and abroad from anyone in a position of power in a democracy is highly hypocritical.

 

[Glaucus]

You shake hands with who ever, when it's official business. The circumstances don't come into it.
There is nothing wrong with it at all and is essential.
Handshakes are an essential part of business.

The deals are far worse than a handshake that at the end of the day mean nothing, when deals actually have tangible effects. To think it's the opposite way is mind boggling.

 

[arknor]

Interesting view point indeed. Loved by 95% of the population? Really?

he gave free education , provided water to all of the country etc hardly the evil dictator who never did a anything for the country and his sons were pretty westernised which is a big improvement over these NTC people who are clearly islamic nutters.

his sons seemed to care more about partying than torturing people eventually the country would have gone towards democracy given time now its just going towards beeing an islamic state crap hole the same as most other african and middle east countries

 

[Biohazard]

You shake hands with who ever, when it's official business. The circumstances don't come into it.
There is nothing wrong with it at all and is essential.
Handshakes are an essential part of business.

You don't. Or more precisely, our leaders shouldn't.

Circumstances clearly come into it. Hence morals.

Business is no convenient escape route for them.

 

[Glaucus]

The fact you see deals as better than a handshake is mind boggling. One is a tangible entity. The other is a custom and is essential. You can not withold a handshake without consequences.

So you never. Shook hands with a manager, police, work collegue, bank or anyone else that has tried to screw you over or you think has done something wrong.

 

[B&W]

I haven't seen the footage but I can see why, distasteful as it is, that in this case there is justification in showing the body as it will significantly reduce opposition and save lives.

There's a difference between showing a photo of a dead man then the digusting scenes that are being shown now and were shown before.

So do you agree that OBL's body should be seen aswell?

 

[Biohazard]

The fact you see deals as better than a handshake is mind boggling. One is a tangible entity. The other is a custom and is essential. You can not withold a handshake without consequences.

I've said nothing of the sort.

Quite the opposite, I cast both rather similiarly actually. Try shooting me down with that instead.

So you never. Shook hands with a manager, police, work collegue, bank or anyone else that has tried to screw you over or you think has done something wrong.

Can't say I have, although it's a bit of an irrelevence really when talking about international murderous criminals don't you think?

 

[Glaucus]

Well your post implied that deals were bad, but not as bad as handshakes.

International criminal makes no difference. He still had power. We still needed to negotiate and deal with. Hence you give a handshake. It's no buggy and just how business and politics works.

 

[B&W]

End of the day he was a bad man he shouldn't have been killed the way he was but im sure he's done the same to others, so what goes around comes around.

The desecrating of the body just shows the animals that we will now have in power, but of course they're all good now because they're our friends.

Not a single word of condemnation from the world leaders on how his body was paraded around, that too me shows that all "world" leaders are immoral scum.