Poll: Rebels rolling into Tripoli

Were we right to get involved in Libya?

  • Yes

    Votes: 291 49.7%

  • No

    Votes: 294 50.3%
  • Total voters
    585
RIP Gadaffi.

Love him or loather him he was one of the very few true revolutionaries of the modern era. Also one of the very few leaders who wouldn't prostitute himself to the global bankster cartel hence why he's dead. Still made a good stand. I wonder how many of our leaders would sooner fight to the end than flee to some foreign safe haven if the bombs start dropping.

Also bet Tony Blair and many other western leaders are sighing with relief he'll never stand trial and reveal all his dirty secrets.
 
I dont get how NATO went in to enforce a no fly zone, but it was a nato air strike which took out the convoy of cars and trucks. There werent any tanks there so why were they even involved in bombing it?!
 
Orcish-Horde said:
He came to as violent a death as many of his victims, that would be closure enough for most. At lest they were spared the indignity of him showboating in a courtroom.
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And oh look, there goes democracy and the civilised state everyone fought for. A proper trial would have been a great start for post Gaddafi Libya.

To be honest I was sickened by the pictures on TV tonight. There was one guy wearing Gaddafi's blood soacked shirt. I mean that can't be right? Can it?

The more dictators we rid the world of, the more we'll start looking at our 'allies' and 'friends' and finding faults with them. That's not to say intervention isn't aways avoidable.

There's no overall solution. Our existence will never be harmonious.
 
[TW]Fox;20359527 said:
Best thing to do is browse OcUK forums because we have people on here with the real inside story and the real reasons behind things.
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and then we have people like you who dimiss anything the bbc or sky dont tell us , because they would never lie would they......

maybe use your own mind once in a while and look at the facts
 
Kazz said:
Anyone else seen front cover of The Sun? Seriously, not a good picture for a front page :(
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Just checked their web site. The picture on their home page is just disgusting. Is that what we have become? This is what the tabloids believe we want to see and will therefore sell papers?

Sadly it must be true, else they wouldn't do it.

There's no bloody hope for us.
 
Yeah that's the one. I didn't have much respect for The Sun, but what was left of it has gone.

I've not been keeping up with this thread, so if the link goes against decency then mods please delete. Then again, if this is the actual front they're going for, then...wow, what the **** is wrong with this world.

Front page of The Sun today
 
Biohazard said:
You aren't a lawyer though I'm guessing.

There is everything wrong with these "handshakes".

You don't shake hands with people that you should be trying to bring to account for their heinous crimes against humanity.

The deals are irrelevent to this narrow scoped contention but they are of course shameful in them self such as the prisoner transfer deal in exchange for trade, however displays of friendship and gestures of goodwill towards someone who would brutalise civilians at home and murder innocents there and abroad from anyone in a position of power in a democracy is highly hypocritical.
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Let me just jump in ramdomly here, you do know what a handshake means dont you? not what you'd like it to mean, not what some people in business or friends use it for.

For centuries across many many different cultures it means, and has always meant to negotiating under truce/ I come in peace/ I bear no arms.

It has almost universally come from people who have butchered thousands to speak to others who have butchered thousands as a symbol of peaceful discussion.
Thats its point.
 
arknor said:
and then we have people like you who dimiss anything the bbc or sky dont tell us , because they would never lie would they......

maybe use your own mind once in a while and look at the facts
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I'd have a little more faith in somebody telling me to use my mind for once if they themselves knew what a capital letter was. Maybe start on capitalisation and then move on to world foreign policy once thats mastered? Your points would come across so much better.

Either that or don't imply I don't use 'my mind' when I post.
 
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Totality said:
I dont get how NATO went in to enforce a no fly zone, but it was a nato air strike which took out the convoy of cars and trucks. There werent any tanks there so why were they even involved in bombing it?!
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Because his car was headed to another stronghold, and after the NATO backed rebels overwhelmed that he would flee to another stronghold, despite the news reports of Sirte being his last stand he actually still controlled a large amount of Libya at the time of his death and even with NATO's continued support it was unlikely the rebels would have taken the whole country this year without his death, NATO needed him dead before it turned into a PR nightmare.
 
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