Do you agree with the pirate parties policies?

RomanNose · 22 Oct 2011 at 22:35

I know many of you will think they are joke, but they are really taking a lot of ground in Germany and other parts of Europe.
(German Pirate Party Riding the Wave of Success)

Here is a selection of their policies.

To hold MPs to account. We will introduce a new right for constituents to force a by-election in the event of a loss of confidence in their MP.
To make elected representatives accessible.
To defend whistleblowers. We will bring in new legal rights to for individuals exposing corrupt or illegal activities.
To work for open data and transparency. All available information that could be released under freedom of information request should be public by default.
To fight for a genuinely free media. Large broadcast groups should not have the opportunity to adversely dominate the media, and we will support legislation for net neutrality.

Personally I feel that they are really good as they are actually fighting for the freedom of the public and transparency unlike most parties.
So what do you think GD?

Deleted member 651465 · 22 Oct 2011 at 22:37

Too good to be true?

RomanNose · 22 Oct 2011 at 22:38

EVH said:
Too good to be true?

Why do you say that?

Deleted member 651465 · 22 Oct 2011 at 22:42

Dunno.

Ahleckz · 22 Oct 2011 at 22:47

I know someone who ran for election for them in Glasgow. They have some nice ideas, sure, but they suffer the same problem as any other fringe party and that is that they are a fringe party and realistically won't have any influence.

Crestfallen · 22 Oct 2011 at 23:03

Ahleckz said:
I know someone who ran for election for them in Glasgow. They have some nice ideas, sure, but they suffer the same problem as any other fringe party and that is that they are a fringe party and realistically won't have any influence.

Unless you vote for them.

rz30 · 22 Oct 2011 at 23:04

EVH said:
Too good to be true?

+1.

RomanNose · 22 Oct 2011 at 23:07

Ahleckz said:
I know someone who ran for election for them in Glasgow. They have some nice ideas, sure, but they suffer the same problem as any other fringe party and that is that they are a fringe party and realistically won't have any influence.

Well the greens have not done too badly, one of my favourite policies is removing commercial software from the public sector. Free open source software is out there, usable and does the job. Loads of tax payer money could be saved in schools, libraries and other areas.

Trifid · 22 Oct 2011 at 23:09

chaosdestro0 said:
Well the greens have not done too badly, one of my favourite policies is removing commercial software from the public sector. Free open source software is out there, usable and does the job. Loads of tax payer money could be saved in schools, libraries and other areas.

Remember free software doesn't always mean it's cheaper.

Ahleckz · 22 Oct 2011 at 23:10

chaosdestro0 said:
Well the greens have not done too badly, one of my favourite policies is removing commercial software from the public sector. Free open source software is out there, usable and does the job. Loads of tax payer money could be saved in schools, libraries and other areas.

Have they though, really?

RomanNose · 22 Oct 2011 at 23:12

Trifid said:
Remember free software doesn't always mean it's cheaper.

Well I guess the teachers might need a few lessons, I can't see the cost of training ever being the near the cost of sustaining licenses for the whole time a teacher works there though.
I am talking about schools, FOSS is not what it was 20 years ago. Anyone and there granddad can get to grip with it quite easily.

Crestfallen · 22 Oct 2011 at 23:14

The Greens, despite only just having their first MP in this country, have had a huge impact on British politics. As soon as a fringe party starts to attract votes the 3 main parties start adopting their policies. This has been demonstrated by the Greens better than anyone else.

~>Dg<~ · 22 Oct 2011 at 23:16

yarrrrrrrrrrrrr

RomanNose · 22 Oct 2011 at 23:17

Ahleckz said:
Have they though, really?

They have probably influenced the policies of other parties a bit, by having a party it enables an organized effort in changing policies and sort of acts like a lobbying group more than a political party.

kibblerok · 22 Oct 2011 at 23:25

Ahleckz said:
I know someone who ran for election for them in Glasgow. They have some nice ideas, sure, but they suffer the same problem as any other fringe party and that is that they are a fringe party and realistically won't have any influence.

And that's the reason why we have the 2 party circus we do at the moment.

Trifid · 22 Oct 2011 at 23:29

chaosdestro0 said:
Well I guess the teachers might need a few lessons, I can't see the cost of training ever being the near the cost of sustaining licenses for the whole time a teacher works there though.
I am talking about schools, FOSS is not what it was 20 years ago. Anyone and there granddad can get to grip with it quite easily.

Support costs tend to be expensive and also while the underlying software is free what runs on top of it might not be and can push the costs up.

(Btw. I use Ubuntu on my Laptop and support several Linux based servers all of which has cost money for the software).

Nikumba · 23 Oct 2011 at 00:54

The ones in the OP are pretty good but with regards to the FOSS one, I do not think it should be in schools.

Most of the business world is dominated by Microsoft Office weather you like Microsoft or not it is the standard, so in my opinion kids should be taught to use the industry standard rather than a free version just to make some people happy

Kimbie

PermaBanned · 23 Oct 2011 at 00:58

Nikumba said:
The ones in the OP are pretty good but with regards to the FOSS one, I do not think it should be in schools.

Most of the business world is dominated by Microsoft Office weather you like Microsoft or not it is the standard, so in my opinion kids should be taught to use the industry standard rather than a free version just to make some people happy

Kimbie

I don't know what idea of IT in schools you have, but by my definition you're not 'taught' anything. If you used FLOSS then you would be, that being that there exists software other than what Microsoft make.

Hxc · 23 Oct 2011 at 01:22

PermaBanned said:
I don't know what idea of IT in schools you have, but by my definition you're not 'taught' anything. If you used FLOSS then you would be, that being that there exists software other than what Microsoft make.

You are taught how to use Office in schools. I learnt the basics for everything (including Access) in my IT GCSE which was compulsary at my high school.

PermaBanned · 23 Oct 2011 at 01:26

Hxc said:
You are taught how to use Office in schools. I learnt the basics for everything (including Access) in my IT GCSE which was compulsary at my high school.

IT GCSE was the biggest load of crock i've ever been forced to sit through. We did the entire course a year early, in one year and all but two people in the class got distinctions. There was nothing on it anybody wouldn't have been able to do prior to starting the course, apart from perhaps one module on animation, but the rest were on using spreadsheets, proving that you can send emails and use the internet. I felt like i was in one of those patronising 'computing for old people' evening classes.

Do you agree with the pirate parties policies?

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