Poll: What is your position on religion/god?

What are your religious beliefs?

  • Christian

    Votes: 29 10.2%

  • Muslim

    Votes: 7 2.5%

  • Jewish

    Votes: 2 0.7%

  • Buddhist

    Votes: 2 0.7%

  • Hindu

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Sikh

    Votes: 2 0.7%

  • Deist

    Votes: 3 1.1%

  • Agnostic

    Votes: 74 26.1%

  • Pantheist

    Votes: 5 1.8%

  • Atheist

    Votes: 159 56.2%
  • Total voters
    283
PermaBanned said:
So basically science 'doesn't have any business' with theories that there is no evidence for? Presumably it should leave conspiracy theorists alone as well?
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Ok, let's put this another way - how does science deal with the possibility of a being that is sometimes defined as omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent? The answer is that it cannot, the definition of many god(s) puts them into a category whereby they are outwith anything that science can test for or would be expected to deal with.

Or to use an example I've put forward from time to time - as long as the results remain predictively accurate then science doesn't much care how the results happen, it could be immutable laws of the universe that govern all interactions between things or it could be a god interfering with every single experiment ever, provided there remains consistency then why should science care which of the two scenarios it is?

Depends on the conspiracy theory, if it's one where there are scientifically testable hypothesises raised then by all means go at it with science, if there aren't then it's probably not worth trying to explain scientifically.
 
No they are out side the boundaries of science by nature, not because someone claims them to be.
You really need to go read up on science, if a centrist could prove a deity didn't exist, they would and would be a billionaire be use of it. And the greatest scientist in the history of man kind.
 
easyrider said:
You don't beleive in the Christian GOD? Or any God?
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Any. I spent a while in my teens looking into other religions, but never arrived at one that 'clicked', so to speak. It eventually reached the point where I realised that labelling myself a Jew, Sikh, Muslim or anything else really wouldn't have that much bearing on my life, in the same way my being 'Christian' for the early part of my life didn't, because I didn't truly believe in any of them, and so I moved away from religion as a whole.

easyrider said:
That's not what I am saying. I am saying that its just as easy to say I don't believe in God as it is to say I do believe in God

The majorty don't investigate at all. They just go to Church like sheep.
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So, you're now claiming that when you said 'Atheism is for lazy people', you actually meant 'Being lazy is for lazy people'? Yeah, funny how you didn't say that before.
 
Imagine a world where there's no religion.
Then have someone turn up with the bible.
Would you start believing in God?

I'm sure there'd be no religion if it hadn't already been accepted by lesser men.
 
billysielu said:
Imagine a world where there's no religion.

Then have someone turn up with the bible.

Would you start believing in God?
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Many people do, sort off.
Many people are extremely atheist and something happens and they seek religion.

Lesser men? Men that include men far more than we will ever be. I really hate that argument. It has no basis.
 
Athiest

I'll express my views if asked but I won't tell people what they believe in is wrong. Really couldn't give a **** about religion and I tend to steer clear of it but this was a very simple question.
 
AcidHell2 said:
No they are out side the boundaries of science by nature, not because someone claims them to be.
You really need to go read up on science, if a centrist could prove a deity didn't exist, they would and would be a billionaire be use of it. And the greatest scientist in the history of man kind.
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Well that just leads onto the question of who the burden of proof lies with, doesn't it? And naturally, in science, it's with whoever proposes the theory. Otherwise it would just be a case of a group of people sitting in a room, smoking some questionable substance and one turns to another and says "Hey, you know what i reckon? I reckon there's a KFC on Mars." This is clearly not true, but if anybody else raised this point all you would have to say is 'Prove it's not'.

Religion is no less preposterous.
 
billysielu said:
Yeah, usually a death, or addiction, or prison, etc..

I consider these people weakened by their past experience - they need something to believe in.
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Not always at all.
Many just get the feeling. Not everyone has a life changing even and seek out religion. Some have no need to seek out religion but do.
 
PermaBanned said:
Well that just leads onto the question of who the burden of proof lies with, doesn't it? And naturally, in science, it's with whoever proposes the theory. Otherwise it would just be a case of a group of people sitting in a room, smoking some questionable substance and one turns to another and says "Hey, you know what i reckon? I reckon there's a KFC on Mars." This is clearly not true, but if anybody else raised this point all you would have to say is 'Prove it's not'.

Religion is no less preposterous.
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Yet again, it's not a scientific theory. It falls outside science and science can not answer it.
KFC On the moon is very much within the realms of science and very provable under the sceintific method one way or another.
You still are comprehending it are you.
 
Never really understood how someone who was Atheist could change to whatever religion - it implies they've had something happen to change their mind, some new evidence etc.

I'd be interested to know some examples.
 
billysielu said:
Never really understood how someone who was Atheist could change to whatever religion - it implies they've had something happen to change their mind, some new evidence etc.
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Because they do.
A lot of religiuse people will also have experiences and evidence to show god exists. But it's their personal evidence and not within the scientific model.

Personally I think spirituality is imprinted in most people. Just like most people fear adrenaline rushes. Yet some people are programmed to get excitement out of such acts and seek it out.
Or just like majority of people like safe and comfy, yet others are born to be explorers and push the boundaries.
 
PermaBanned said:
Prove it ;)
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What a surprise.
Perhaps if you read up about science and what it actually is and what assumptions it contains. Then you would understand.

For example one of them is occam's razor, you can't tell me that rule has anything based in fact.
Occam's razor, also known as Ockham's razor, and sometimes expressed in Latin as lex parsimoniae (the law of parsimony, economy or succinctness), is a principle that generally recommends selecting from among competing hypotheses the one that makes the fewest new assumptions
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Science doesn't really care about how something's actually happens. It's basically a predictive model

I like using intelligent design vs evolution as an example.
Both are theories, the evidence for both is absolutely identical. Yet science doesn't care for one. It falls out side of scientific method. Science can't actually prove that evolution happens due to random mutations.
 
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I think my sig makes my position clear :)

In other words, Jesus is awesome.

God is good, and his love grace and mercy are fully towards us. He sees you, knows you and cares deeply for you.
 
PermaBanned said:
Prove it ;)
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Easy. Define a testable hypothesis for God that will provide definitive results, and provide definitive proof that the assumptions that underpin scientific methodolgy and predictability can be demonstrated to be factual in reality.

If you manage to do either successfully, a noble prize beckons...
 
doofer said:
Can you give me a rational explanation of why your god loves you and cares for you, but not these people and others like them...(Mysterious ways is NOT an answer.)

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Thanks!
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Well if you talking about Christianity, it's because he no longer interferes with are lives. That doesn't mean he doesnt care. And before you jump on the bandwagon. Remember I'm agnostic and think deitys are extremely unlikely to exist.
 
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