Poll: What is your position on religion/god?

[steve-h]

Darwin was not an Atheist

therefore god is real

LOL.

 

[nikeair94]

I don't think anyone is truly 100% atheist or theist, I think we are all Agnostic secretly.

 

[easyrider]

How on earth can not believing in something that has zero evidence be considered as a faith?

Being so sure although there is no eveidence to prove or disprove is faith.

Why be so sure in the first place?

Why be so convinced?

Faith....Faith in your own convction that god doesn't exist.

Its very easy to understand...I'm unsure why you are struggling with it.

 

[easyrider]

therefore god is real

LOL.

Evolution is a moot point when talking about GOD its meaningless thats my point.

 

[easyrider]

This. At least atheists try to make reason from proof?

Proof of what?

Science?

Science can't prove anything other than investigated experiments.
The rest is faith or theory or BS however you may look at it.

 

[Skidder]

No, we don't have faith. We rely on evidence as opposed to faith, faith (in this sense) is defined as: strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

Yes, but agnostic atheism recognises that through evidence you can not currently prove the atheist position is correct.

 

[TFleming]

Aha they are not inter wined at all. Do you even understand what atheism means.
You caneasily believe in evolution at both ends of the spectrum and in all the middle parts.

As well as learning what atheism is, do you understand what evolution is? Do you also understand what a deity is.

I would say you don't to all of them.

Yes, yes and yes. I think we are coming at this from different view points. I am saying that atheism can come from the belief of evolution. I am not disputing the fact that you can believe in evolution at both end of the spectrum.

Atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist. We then must question why one believes no deities exist. From this, many turn to science to give empirical evidence, evolution is science, therefore, how are the two not related??

 

[Glaucus]

How can science give evidence on something totally outside the scientific model.
If you know what a deity is why do you keep using religion as some sort of smoking gun, against a deity.
It's not coming at it from a different direction. It's simply wrong.

Evolution is about how living organisms evolved. It has sod all to do with how the universe started or the possibilities if a deity.
In other words evolution is not a scientific evidence for an atheisms position.

 

[easyrider]

Atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist. We then must question why one believes no deities exist. From this, many turn to science to give empirical evidence,

And science can offer nothing in return other than faith.

Fact is science is no more exact than religion itself.

For arguments sake Man created religion and the existence of god cannot be proven

Science created evidence but up to a point the majority of its explanations carry no more water than saying Jesus is the son of god.

 

[TFleming]

How can science give evidence on something totally outside the scientific model.
If you know what a deity is why do you keep using religion as some sort of smoking gun, against a deity.
It's not coming at it from a different direction. It's simply wrong.

Evolution is about how living organisms evolved. It has sod all to do with how the universe started or the possibilities if a deity.
In other words evolution is not a scientific evidence for an atheisms position.

It is not solely enough evidence, of course it isn't. Indeed no one section of science is enough to say a God doesn't exists. However, again I will state, it can be used with other science to build a broader picture, from which we can doubt the existance, and therefore become an atheist.

 

[bledd]

Voted panthiest because it's the most similar to pancake

 

[Glaucus]

What other science?
What science proves the mechanism.

You can't use evolution at all to justify your atheist position.

 

[AshenShugar1873]

I've put atheist but obviously can't be 100% sure, I just think a higher power is so unlikely that agnostic isn't a viable option. 99.999% atheist, the rest agnostic if you like.

 

[steve-h]

Being so sure although there is no eveidence to prove or disprove is faith.

I don't remember there being any evidence for a god. That's all it is... no faith involved.

Why be so sure in the first place?

Why be so convinced?

If there's evidence that proves the existence of a God I'll be all over it... until then it's as believable as unicorns and santa, so forgive me if I don't take it too seriously.

Faith....Faith in your own convction that god doesn't exist.

Replace god with unicorns etc...

 

[shoes]

Most atheists celerbrate christmas too

I don't.

I just enjoy the time off and getting drunk

 

[dave_beast]

I don't.

I just enjoy the time off and getting drunk

^this

 

[BrownSparrow]

I don't post on these forums often, but i love theology and this discussion caught my attention.

I'm an atheist and i guess i always have been, although i was brought up as C of E.

Whilst the argument about 'faith/belief' rages in the posts around this one, for me both religion and science are tools used by humans to explain the world around them.
It's sciences ability to theorise, test, prove, disprove, and admit that it doesn't have all the answers (and can be wrong), that sets it aside from religion.

For me the world is even more beautiful through the eyes of science.

 

[krooton]

Agnostic here, but do some of you really imply that I have faith in the non-existence of the Easter Bunny?

 

[The Dread Pirate]

Seeing as Babelfish does exist God therefore doesn't!

The Babel fish is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with the nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.
Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindbogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen it to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets killed on the next zebra crossing.
Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo's kidneys, but that didn't stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he used it as the central theme of his best-selling book Well That About Wraps It Up For God.
Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.

 

[easyrider]

I don't remember there being any evidence for a god. That's all it is... no faith involved.

There is no evidence of the Big Bang as if you go further back there is no evidence of anything.

If there's evidence that proves the existence of a God I'll be all over it... until then it's as believable as unicorns and santa, so forgive me if I don't take it too seriously.

So is science past a point

Replace god with unicorns etc...

Replace science with God

At some point all perception of the nature of existence as to deal with Faith.Wether you like it or not. You know you exist but cannot explain why and scientists cannot offer any evidence to explain why.