Retread tyres

Will Gill · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:17

4MIT said:
Berate the motoring crew, oh come on now.

Opinions are all good and well, but they are just that! I would like something from someone to substantiate either side of the argument as I haven't been able to find out much myself.

let me break it down for you, no one here is stupid enough to ever ever put re-treads on their car

you would do well to emulate that

4MIT · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:19

[TW]Fox;20441809 said:
There is simply no need to even take the risk. Having just checked tyres in your size are bonkers cheap. For only 20 quid a tyre more you could fit decent premium tyres such as the Continental ContiPremiumContact 2.

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m53b0s418...CONTIPREMIUMCONTACT_2_ECO_-_195_65R15_91H_TL_

If the £20 a tyre saving really is worth it then perhaps a bus pass is a safer option if you've got limited money to spend on keeping your car safe?

Where is the risk? Im yet to see anyone show me something factual rather than opinion or prejudice.

Like Ive said I genuinely want to know if they are dangerous or not, and its not just a price issue, the amount of waste we generate is ridiculous, whilst a pair of retreads wont change anything, it is a start.

[TW]Fox · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:20

The established car tyre brands spend millions developing tyre compounds and tread patterns to ensure tyres deliver optimum performance in a wide range of condition. Not for doing 120mph around tight bends but for day to day driving. Driving on the Motorway at the speed limit in the pouring rain. Driving around town at 30mph and stopping quickly when somebody pulls out. That sort of stuff.

Developing tyres like this costs them a fortune but results in quality tyres that will last a long time and keep you safe whatever the conditions.

A company retreading tyres has neither the budget nor the expertise of the big players.

The results are therefore fairly obvious and it's not at all worth the gamble for the saving of £20 a tyre.

You will probably get 2 years out of a set of tyre. Thats a whole 83p a month more, per tyre, to have the right stuff fitted to your car. The only thing between your car and the road is your tyres.

Decent tyres are what EVERYONE should fit and are nothing to do with how fast you drive.

You didn't compromise on your car when you paid extra and bought a Mk5 Golf over the numerous other much cheaper cars, so why compromise when it comes to choosing safety critical components for it?

4MIT · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:20

Will Gill said:
let me break it down for you, no one here is stupid enough to ever ever put re-treads on their car

you would do well to emulate that

however, like you, they are to stupid to grasp the simple concept of evidence based conclusions:/

Will Gill · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:22

I'm trying to decide if you are just trolling, if so, well done plenty of bites

question for you, what happens when you drive fast? your tyres heat up, causing the bonding agent to fail and your re-treaded tyres to fall apart, this casuses the money you saved on a new tyre to disappear as you have to repair your bent and battered wagon.

please by all means go buy some re-treads you will be doing the world a favour

MagicBoy · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:23

4MIT said:
Berate the motoring crew, oh come on now.

Opinions are all good and well, but they are just that! I would like something from someone to substantiate either side of the argument as I haven't been able to find out much myself.

This being a forum where automotive enthusiasts congregate you are highly unlikely to find anyone here that uses retreads/remoulds. If you're looking for affirmation of your purchase intent you won't find it here.

I don't know which forums the tyre remanufacturing experts use. Google is your friend.

Keep on having a go at the community and using the lovely rolleyes and I'll assume you enjoy trolling.

Firestar_3x · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:24

Go for it imho what could possibly go wrong.

4MIT · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:24

[TW]Fox;20441846 said:
The established car tyre brands spend millions developing tyre compounds and tread patterns to ensure tyres deliver optimum performance in a wide range of condition. Not for doing 120mph around tight bends but for day to day driving. Driving on the Motorway at the speed limit in the pouring rain. Driving around town at 30mph and stopping quickly when somebody pulls out. That sort of stuff.

Developing tyres like this costs them a fortune but results in quality tyres that will last a long time and keep you safe whatever the conditions.

A company retreading tyres has neither the budget nor the expertise of the big players.

The results are therefore fairly obvious and it's not at all worth the gamble for the saving of £20 a tyre.

You will probably get 2 years out of a set of tyre. Thats a whole 83p a month more, per tyre, to have the right stuff fitted to your car. The only thing between your car and the road is your tyres.

Decent tyres are what EVERYONE should fit and are nothing to do with how fast you drive.

You didn't compromise on your car when you paid extra and bought a Mk5 Golf over the numerous other much cheaper cars, so why compromise when it comes to choosing safety critical components for it?

Should branded tyres really be the safer option then I will go for them, I just hadn't come across retreaded car tyres before and was curious.

As for the golf... was the wifes choice, figured I should agree before she changed her mind for something daft like a mini!

Will Gill · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:25

MagicBoy said:
I don't know which forums the tyre remanufacturing experts use. Google is your friend.

I tried searching for forums for the utterly retarded, alas google let me down

MagicBoy · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:25

Will Gill said:
I tried searching for forums for the utterly retarded, alas google let me down

4chan?

SB118 · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:28

4MIT said:
however, like you, they are to stupid to grasp the simple concept of evidence based conclusions:/

No, we aren't. Some of us here have been at the "on your arse skint" stage and fitted retreads because there was nothing else.

And of those who have used them, how many do you think would recommend them as a "good buy"?

Not me, for one.

Spend an extra couple of quid and get decent tyres.

tl;dr? retreads aren't worth buying, they are not a good "bang per buck" choice.

Kenai · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:29

Hotwired said:
If they're dangerous why would trucks use them?

Truck tyres are designed to be retreaded afaik, car tyres are not.

The carcasses aren't designed to reused in such a manner.

4MIT · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:30

Will Gill said:
I'm trying to decide if you are just trolling, if so, well done plenty of bites

question for you, what happens when you drive fast? your tyres heat up, causing the bonding agent to fail and your re-treaded tyres to fall apart, this casuses the money you saved on a new tyre to disappear as you have to repair your bent and battered wagon.

please by all means go buy some re-treads you will be doing the world a favour

Not trolling, but struggling to see what was so difficult about my request for information...

Are retreads more likely to disintegrate? Becasue, all research I have done so far indicates retreads have to meet stringent British Standards BS AU 144e to guarantee safety.

Firestar_3x · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:30

Kenai said:
Truck tyres are designed to be retreaded afaik, car tyres are not.

The carcasses aren't designed to reused in such a manner.

They have a much lower max speed you can do too.

4MIT · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:31

SB118 said:
No, we aren't. Some of us here have been at the "on your arse skint" stage and fitted retreads because there was nothing else.

And of those who have used them, how many do you think would recommend them as a "good buy"?

Not me, for one.

Spend an extra couple of quid and get decent tyres.

tl;dr? retreads aren't worth buying, they are not a good "bang per buck" choice.

As I said earlier, I am interested in your experiences of them being dangerous and not good. What was it that made them substandard? Please expand.

Will Gill · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:32

as I personally said if you don't ever drive over 30mph they are fine, if you do they are a disaster waiting to happen, sorry if that wasn't clear enough for you

or, put another way

THEY FALL APART IF YOU GO FAST

4MIT · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:33

Kenai said:
Truck tyres are designed to be retreaded afaik, car tyres are not.

The carcasses aren't designed to reused in such a manner.

However during construction of retreads they must pass various safety checks to ensure they are suitable and safe, hence why their is a British Standard associated with their construction...

4MIT · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:33

Will Gill said:
as I personally said if you don't ever drive over 30mph they are fine, if you do they are a disaster waiting to happen, sorry if that wasn't clear enough for you

or, put another way

THEY FALL APART IF YOU GO FAST

And that claim is substantiated by what?

Kenai · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:34

At the end of the day, if you're just after someone to tell you what you want to hear, this isn't the place you're going to get it.

For whatever reason you're obviously wanting the retreads, you're looking for absolutely any excuse you can find to justify them, be it eco friendliness, being a tight git or something else, frankly I doubt any of us really give a **** why but you've had pretty much everyone tell you not to bother.

Take it or leave it, but the advice isn't going to change.

Firestar_3x · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:34

Are we at the stage when the OP trys to educate everyone else in the thread?