Retread tyres

[TW]Fox;20442110 said:
Errr my point was that at 20 quid a tyre they are barely any cheaper therefore it isnt worth the bother, not that they are loads cheaper!!



British Standard means nothing. Various chinese tyres meet the British Standard yet in proper tyre tests on new tyres the difference in wet braking distance from the speed limit between the best and worst tyre on test can be many car lengths!
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Retreads are half the price! that is a substantial saving, however that hasn't been my primary motivation on investigating retreads.

British Standards do mean something, substantially more than numerous peoples unfounded opinions.
 
[TW]Fox;20442141 said:
Why don't you substantiate your claims?

Thats generally what you have to do when you hold a viewpoint that is unique amongst a group of people.
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Apart from Im not here claiming ones better than the other have I.

ive stated facts, retreads take less energy and raw materials, cheaper, more ecologically sound, manufactured to specific British Standards.

For brand new tyres there have been arguments for higher quality rubber compounds and tread patterns (however it appears some retreading firms copy other brands tread patterns)

Neither side has offered any facts regarding safety.
 
4MIT said:
Retreads are half the price!
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They are £30 each. I have linked you to Conti Premium Contacts at £50 each.

£50 - £30 = £20 saving.

British Standards do mean something, substantially more than numerous peoples unfounded opinions.
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British Standards are sorely lacking when it comes to tyre performance. This is why various Chinese tyres meet British Standards yet on the road can often take many car lengths longer to stop than leading premium brand alternatives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2c9Ry0JfMw

The budget tyre took an average of 14 metres or 3 and 1/2 car lengths extra to stop. When the premium tyre had come to a stop, the car on budget tyres was still travelling at 31mph.
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Luke said:
What is it exactly you are looking for here?
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A bit of fun whilst the wife is watching X-Factor...

But seriously, just some people who may be a bit more in the know than me who can offer balanced opinions based on something other than prejudices.
 
[TW]Fox;20442192 said:
They are £30 each. I have linked you to Conti Premium Contacts at £50 each.

£50 - £30 = £20 saving.
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Take into account the fitting price per tyre and the difference between cheap Polish retreads and brand new premium Conti's is even smaller in percentage terms.
 
Remoulds aren't going to blow out and kill you if they are made properly. The problem is that you really don't know how well they are made or if its a good carcus underneath. Personally I wouldn't risk me or my family for the sake of saving so little money.

The treads you see on the road from trucks are normally the treads that have delaminated not blow outs. Truck tyres have a really deep tread and once worn can normally be recut for new tread. Truck remoulds are the same and the tyres do really high mileages. On top of that the carcus can be used about three times for remoulding. I don't know if its law or not but I know remoulds aren't used on the steering axles and tankers don't use remoulds at all.
 
4MIT said:
Those numbers are unsettling and are rather persuasive!
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And they are not retreads. They are brand new but cheap tyres.

Retreads will be even worse :eek:

Wet braking is not part of any of the tests to meet British Standards. Yet wet braking is one of the most important performance characteristics of a tyre.
 
Kenai said:
Take into account the fitting price per tyre and the difference between cheap Polish retreads and brand new premium Conti's is even smaller in percentage terms.
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What about British made retreads like Kingpins?

On balance I think i will be going for brand new ones, possibly pirellis to match the back ones. In this whole thread most of the useful info has come from Fox, cheers
 
[TW]Fox;20442225 said:
And they are not retreads. They are brand new but cheap tyres.

Retreads will be even worse :eek:

Wet braking is not part of any of the tests to meet British Standards. Yet wet braking is one of the most important performance characteristics of a tyre.
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Agreed, never had an issue with dry braking ever, wet braking on the other hand, nearly soiled myself in the old micra. I do wonder why there are no standards surrounding wet braking?
 
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