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Iran is the last piece in the modern crusade, mydinnerjacket would love to take on the USA/UK hes a spokesman for postive religion action.
Good luck to him. Why? Becuase WE are the aggressors, WE are the ones who are killing innocents, in the pursuit of oil. WE are the ones siding with ISRAEL.

**** ISRAEL.
 
I lend them no legitimacy. I consider them traitors, guilty of treason.
I'm curious as to what kind of regime you would seek to live in... What would you consider a democracy, if you would even wish to live in one?

I am a fierce critic of our system of 'democracy', but I'm also a pragmatist, partly due to having spent so much time studying alternatives, and trying to theorise my own. Go and revolt, do something about it. I'm already planning an uprising, we need a revolution badly. You come across as extreme, which is ok, save for the fact that when pushed, you don't seem to have any understanding of what it is you are criticising or supporting.

Also, I can't stand David Cameron, but please tell me why you think it would be a good thing for him to be murdered. To my knowledge, he hasn't done a single noteworthy thing since becoming prime minister.
 
Am I mad - I hope not :)

Would I rather live in somewhere terrible - no, of course not.

But wait, it isn't a choice between two extremes.

But Islam is the religion of Peace and western leaders are all evil people you believe are guilty of treason and you'd prefer to be dead?
 
Why would they be 'willfully' mis-translated when the translation came from the IRIA - owned by Iran!

There was certainly a lot of backtracking after the comments were published, in English, (by them) and of course a translation isn't always going necessarily scan well but it would be naive to believe there wasn't an implied threat at the least.

The monthly weapons deliveries to Hezbollah would perhpas be a more unambiguous reflection of Iran's policies towards Israel than trying to debate the intended meaning of a translation.

Oh dear.
 
I think a few people from an organisation based in and supported by the old regime in Afghanistan did attack our closest ally in rather spectacular fashion (after having attacked a warship and a few embassy previously) and in the course of doing so killed 100 or so British people... then carried on making threats to carry out more attacks... and did so...

Iran has regularly attacked our forces and supplied weapons to people attacking our forces for the past decade, also the small matter of threatening to wipe Israel off the map and actively developing nuclear weapons....

Iraq probably should have been finished off the first time round after invading Kuwait - still its probably best overall that Saddam was overthrown.

Tbh... it doesn't even need to be in our direct interests for certain events to be better for the world in general - Bin Laden, Gaddafi and Saddam being dead is a pretty good thing over all IMO.



Iran hasn't attacked our forces, they held some naval ratings a few years ago for straying into what was arguably their waters, they were released unharmed.

They may or may not supply arms and supplies to militia and insurgency groups, although the main culprits for that are Syria, China and indirectly, Russia.

There is yet to be valid evidence of a nuclear arms program, everything so far points to a civilian generation program and rhetoric is meaningless, if we invaded every nation that threatened or criticised Isreal we would be up to our arms in blood across the entire Middle East, North Africa and Central Asia.

Afghanistan is entirely different, we were invited into Afghanistan by the then Northern Alliance to aid the overthrow of what was considered an illegitimate Taliban Regime at the time that was also supporting terrorist training camps and various militant islamist factions.

Iraq posed significant threats to both the economic stability of the west and had proven to be aggressive and belligerent in the past.

Personally I think there are significant issues in the middle east that really need tackling and they do not include Iran's suspected nuclear program. The Israel- Palestininan issue for one, Syrian aggression on its own people for another and this seems to be a distraction which coincides convienently with Israel building more settlements, withholding Palestinian Tax Revenues and the issues the US, Israel and several other countries have with UNESCO recognising Palestine as a state.

The reports of a military build up to attack Iran by the UK are pretty wide of the mark tbh, The United States says there is no acceleration toward military action and the UK is only reviewing it's contingency plans, this is no unusual it just happens (intentionally or not) to coincincide with the IAEA report next week and recent Israeli rhetoric regarding Iran.

I think we need to at least wait to see what the IAEA say and lets not forget a war in Iran would be economically disasterpis for the West especially in the current climate.
 
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LOL - how exactly is Cameron, for example, guilty of 'Treason'?
Because they serve outside powers before the interests of British people.

Most Brits care for Palestine for example.

Most Brits don't want to rape Iraq and Afghanistan for their natural resources.
 
Good luck to him. Why? Becuase WE are the aggressors, WE are the ones who are killing innocents, in the pursuit of oil. WE are the ones siding with ISRAEL.

**** ISRAEL.

Only real democracy in that region tbh... Jordan isn't too bad either to be fair.

Strange how Israel doesn't have vast oil reserves yet we're buddies with them in spite of this...

Why do you believe we want to kill 'innocents' for oil?
 
Because they serve outside powers before the interests of British people.

Most Brits care for Palestine for example.

Most Brits don't want to rape Iraq and Afghanistan for their natural resources.

How is Cameron raping Iraq or Afghanistan for their natural resources? You're not making much sense tbh....
 
Because they serve outside powers before the interests of British people.

Most Brits care for Palestine for example.

Most Brits don't want to rape Iraq and Afghanistan for their natural resources.
Would you care to offer a non-generic answer, that isn't from the anti-US extremist's playbook?
 
I just don't see how the Leader of a State with quite extreme religious views which treats it's Citizens with contempt, ignores their Rights, ignores International Laws, sponsors Terrorism, is rife with corruption, watches and records everything its Citizens do online, listens to their Phonecalls and covertly spies on them, invading their Privacy, imprisons and enslaves them them for 'Political' reasons, quells any dissent with violence from its Police Force has the audacity to think it has the 'right' to tell the Leader of another State with quite extreme religious views which treats it's Citizens with contempt, ignores their Rights, ignores International Laws, sponsors Terrorism, is rife with corruption, watches and records everything its Citizens do online, listens to their Phonecalls and covertly spies on them, invading their Privacy, imprisons and enslaves them them for 'Political' reasons, quells any dissent with violence from its Police Force what it can and cannot do...

Lolpolitics.
 
Good luck to him. Why? Becuase WE are the aggressors, WE are the ones who are killing innocents, in the pursuit of oil. WE are the ones siding with ISRAEL.

**** ISRAEL.

I agree but Iran and Pakistan is funding terrorism..not cool. creating people that will no doubt bomb the UK

Maybe they should get one with building a country and infustracture to be proud of, Pakistan gets flooded = HELP, Iran just let people die, no western media = problem solved

I wonder if we had suicidal Islamic bombers in the uk before WW2 :confused:

Palestine what a crap piece of land, who would think it would cause all this, we brits always stick our noses in :D

tbh imho thank god we have the tech and mossad.
 
Iran hasn't attacked our forces, they held some naval ratings a few years ago for straying into what was arguably their waters, they were released unharmed.

few of your lot amongst them too... 'arguably' ? come off it... they were not in Iranian waters.*

Anyway I'm not referring to that I'm referring to the supply of weapons to Shia groups and the deployment of republican guard troops to Iraq both overt incursions near the border and covertly.

edit - actually that one is a bit more complex they were in Iraqi waters as defined by the coalition but there wasn't an agreed boundary
 
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I agree but Iran and Pakistan is funding terrorism..not cool. creating people that will no doubt bomb the UK

Maybe they should get one with building a country and infustracture to be proud of, Pakistan gets flooded = HELP, Iran just let people die, no western media = problem solved

I wonder if we had suicidal Islamic bombers in the uk before WW2 :confused:

Palestine what a crap piece of land, who would think it would cause all this, we brits always stick our noses in :D

tbh imho thank god we have the tech and mossad.

Define terrorism. Do you not think that bombing the CRAP out of Libyan civilian infrastructure and people is terrorism?

The Al Queda 'rebels' SHELLING the crap out of Sirte, while we ignored it, and the resultant civilian murders, was terrorism?
 
I just don't see how the Leader of a State with quite extreme religious views which treats it's Citizens with contempt, ignores their Rights, ignores International Laws, sponsors Terrorism, is rife with corruption, watches and records everything its Citizens do online, listens to their Phonecalls and covertly spies on them, invading their Privacy, imprisons and enslaves them them for 'Political' reasons, quells any dissent with violence from its Police Force has the audacity to think it has the 'right' to tell the Leader of another State with quite extreme religious views which treats it's Citizens with contempt, ignores their Rights, ignores International Laws, sponsors Terrorism, is rife with corruption, watches and records everything its Citizens do online, listens to their Phonecalls and covertly spies on them, invading their Privacy, imprisons and enslaves them them for 'Political' reasons, quells any dissent with violence from its Police Force what it can and cannot do...

Lolpolitics.

Are you talking about America or Israel there?
 
tbh imho thank god we have the tech and mossad.

That will not save you in the end. I'd rather have no tech and no army, but be able to stand up and speak out against oppression, and recognise who the real terrorists are who have already been caught out lying numerous times.
 
I suppose 'our' terrorists are 'good' terrorists.

Who gives a **** about the poor Libyan civilians.

Now you're getting it. All you have to do now is bend over, keep watching TV and never question your government and remember everything is ok.

:rolleyes:
 
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