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Like for like replacement for my GTX480?
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Soldato
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Not 100% sure on the heat of this but Im pretty sure its a lot cooler than a GTX 480. Performance is very close.
GTX 480 vs GTX570
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/309?vs=306
GTX 480 vs GTX570
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/309?vs=306
I've turned off the radiators in my room and use the GTX580s and a GTX590 to heat up my room (by running folding@home GPU clients). As winter approaches these GF110 chips don't seem to be able to hold my room temperature up.
If you are looking for a card with less heat, then the GTX570 or the HD6970 might do the trick. However I do not recommend you do such replacement, as new products awaits ahead. For example, leaked specs suggests that there will be a low power consumption card that performs like the GTX580 but at a much lower TDP.
If you are looking for a card with less heat, then the GTX570 or the HD6970 might do the trick. However I do not recommend you do such replacement, as new products awaits ahead. For example, leaked specs suggests that there will be a low power consumption card that performs like the GTX580 but at a much lower TDP.
Custom cooling.
There is the massive Thermalright Shaman:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-080-TR&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=787
You might lose the slot above the pci-e due to the large screws, so it could possibly take up to 5 slots.
Zalman VF3000F-480- is a 3 slot cooler but is discontinued now but you can find it on the well known auction site
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Regarding the zalman, in theory the core is still throwing out the same waste heat, but as it's getting the heat away quicker, when gaming, the temps in your room would be at about ~65c instead of ~90c+ not to mention the massive drop in noise levels.
Zalman VF3000F, which you can still buy, is for the 470 but there is this thread over at [H] about it on the 480:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1584733
'Max temp ive seen it go up to in game with it overclocked to 1125mV, 880 core, 1760 shader, and 2035 ram is 61c where before with slower clocks it would hit into the 90s easily.'
Page 2 has some pics.
There is the massive Thermalright Shaman:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-080-TR&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=787
You might lose the slot above the pci-e due to the large screws, so it could possibly take up to 5 slots.
Zalman VF3000F-480- is a 3 slot cooler but is discontinued now but you can find it on the well known auction site
.Regarding the zalman, in theory the core is still throwing out the same waste heat, but as it's getting the heat away quicker, when gaming, the temps in your room would be at about ~65c instead of ~90c+ not to mention the massive drop in noise levels.
Zalman VF3000F, which you can still buy, is for the 470 but there is this thread over at [H] about it on the 480:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1584733
'Max temp ive seen it go up to in game with it overclocked to 1125mV, 880 core, 1760 shader, and 2035 ram is 61c where before with slower clocks it would hit into the 90s easily.'
Page 2 has some pics.
Best advice yet, It's all I do when it gets a bit warm in my room.
Very cheap and very efficient also.
A more efficient cooler on the 480 won't solve your issue. That will just cool the GPU better. The same GPU used to the same degree at the same voltage will generate the same amount of heat. The better cooler will just pass that heat into your room faster!
Also is it not the case that the 570 / 580 generate (in games, not Kombustor which is limited) similar heat to the 480, they just have more efficient coolers?
Also is it not the case that the 570 / 580 generate (in games, not Kombustor which is limited) similar heat to the 480, they just have more efficient coolers?
Yes it will, his issue is about reducing temps in his room, as stated above in my earlier post, if the stock cooler pumps out 90c when gaming, the custom cooler could make the ambient temps about 65c.
Regardless whether the core is still producing the same waste heat, the more efficient cooler can remove that heat quicker, which reduces the room temperature!
In my case, I have 6950>70 crossfire setup sitting in a small cupboard behind my large screen TV, it's that small, I have to swivel the seat to get in and out of it but it's the only suitable place for it to go in my house.
The main display is in the cupboard where I play games, browse and all the general stuff but it's used for watching movies and the odd game on the TV too.
With stock coolers on, the heat would be unbearable in the cupboard due to the waste heat inside a small enclosed area, but with 2 AC Extremes, temps are massively reduced and quiet too.
Regardless whether the core is still producing the same waste heat, the more efficient cooler can remove that heat quicker, which reduces the room temperature!
In my case, I have 6950>70 crossfire setup sitting in a small cupboard behind my large screen TV, it's that small, I have to swivel the seat to get in and out of it but it's the only suitable place for it to go in my house.
The main display is in the cupboard where I play games, browse and all the general stuff but it's used for watching movies and the odd game on the TV too.
With stock coolers on, the heat would be unbearable in the cupboard due to the waste heat inside a small enclosed area, but with 2 AC Extremes, temps are massively reduced and quiet too.
Dont think it's appropriate to compare a cupboard with a room.
A card with a custom cooler dissipates the same energy as heat as one with a stock cooler. The custom cooler is just better at dissipating the heat into the air around it. It is probably true that a larger volume of air is heated and therefore can dissipate it's heat to the surrounding air faster, at least initially, but eventually the same temperatures will be seen regardless of coolers in use given a specified size of area to heat.
Gave me a genuine smile!
For those that care, Thermodynamics has laws!
On the topic - It would be a massive waste to trade the card in just because it warms up the room - you can either open the window - or go to water cooling and pop your rad outside - take advantage of the coming winter to go some proper clocking to that beast of a card!
For those that care, Thermodynamics has laws!
On the topic - It would be a massive waste to trade the card in just because it warms up the room - you can either open the window - or go to water cooling and pop your rad outside - take advantage of the coming winter to go some proper clocking to that beast of a card!
I know:
The same temperatures won't be seen regardless of coolers in use given a specified size of area to heat as the heat generated @90c will get warmer over time than 65c getting warmer over time. The stock fan is also pumping out a higher volume of hot air as well.
With my stock 5870, in the summer, I had to sit a desk fan under the desk to blow all the waste heat out the cupboard as it was unbearable trying to play games. When I put the Extreme on, the temps produced from the waste heat went from about 85c to 55c which in turn removed the need for the desk fan to vent the heat out of the cupboard.
Previous systems that were in the spare room before junior came along always had a custom cooler slapped onto them as well to combat the hot temps the room would heat up to.
It's the same principle as the cupboard scenario but not as extreme.
Are the 570/580's going to reach the same ambient temps in the room as a 480 even though they are both pumping out about the same waste heat?
I very much doubt it.
The difference is the 570/580's have a more efficient cooler to dissipate the heat quicker.
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I already use the custom cooler Zalman VF3000. And yeah I am opening the windows but you shouldn't have to open your window everytime you want to play a game lol and it's winter so it soon gets too cold and have to close it then open then close it etc etc.
I'll just wait for the new generation cards.
Did I mention anything about having the heating on
I'll just wait for the new generation cards.
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I have always had the same issue with my tiny room, but yeah windows and doors gotta be open.
I find replacing the stock fans/coolers and adding much more better coolers and a large 120/140mm fan is better, Thermalright Shaman is a good answer.
You want something thats just gonna be better and getting rid of all that heat
I find replacing the stock fans/coolers and adding much more better coolers and a large 120/140mm fan is better, Thermalright Shaman is a good answer.
You want something thats just gonna be better and getting rid of all that heat
Another good tip, people with small rooms and hot video cards shouldn't close there door also.
If you leave your door and window open ever so slightly, I'm sure it would make a difference.
Leaving your door open and watching porn on your PC is ill advised however.
If you leave your door and window open ever so slightly, I'm sure it would make a difference.
Leaving your door open and watching porn on your PC is ill advised however.
Seriously - a better cooler doesn't magically make the heat disappear - there is no worm-hole to another dimension - the Overheat-fairy doesn't take the bad centigrades and magic them off to overtemp jail! If anything, an after market cooler makes people overclock their cards further, upping voltages which actually increases the heat that they pump out
