Russia steps in against UK/USA/Israeli

Slightly off topic but im going to russia in december and currently going through the visa application. Its a right pain in the nut sack.

Do they not like tourism or something?
 
The US and UK will not declare war on Iran. There is nothing to gain from it except a world of hurt. Israel will not attack Iran unless Iran attacks first, but she might do something naughty to Iran's nuclear power plant in Bushehr, like she did to Iraq's reactor in Baghdad.

The Russians are posturing because it allows them to pretend they're still a significant military power, which is good for opinion polls, vox pops, and national pride.
 
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Which part of 'None of us can categorically state there isn't evidence of a nuclear weapons programme' do you not understand?

Have you credible evidence to discount the accounts given in the IAEA report?

Or are you just sitting on the PC with tinfoil in your head and a poster of Che Guarva on the wall?

"The information also indicates that prior to the end of 2003, these activities took place under a structured programme, and that some activities may still be ongoing."
Src.IAEA Report

Lots of ifs and buts. We've been here before. The Russians say the report yields nothing new and they appear to be correct. Of course, there's probably enough ifs and buts to impose sanctions, eventually leading to a case for military action. Quoting you ''None of us can categorically state there isn't evidence of a nuclear weapons programme', I must be missing something here. Is that telling us there is or isn't evidence? Or is it another maybe?
 
I don't think Israel would hesitate for a second about using nuclear weapons against Iran if they felt that they were seriously threatened by them. That is what I find the most dangerous thing about this whole situation. Israel don't tend to take **** from anyone, even if it means completely flouting the rules.
 
The US and UK will not declare war on Iran. There is nothing to gain from it except a world of hurt. Israel will not attack Iran unless Iran attacks first, but she might do something naughty to Iran's nuclear power plant in Bushehr, like she did to Iraq's reactor in Baghdad.

The Russians are posturing because it allows them to pretend they're still a significant military power, which is good for opinion polls, vox pops, and national pride.

Wait.. Israel won't attack first, but might attack first? :)

Nate
 
It perhaps seems a little unfair how Israel is allowed to maintain it's policy of nuclear ambiguity (and subsequently not recognised by the NPT), all the while enormous amounts of pressure is heaped upon Iran when there is no direct evidence of an active weapons program.
 
She won't attack first but she might sabotage a nuclear reactor. Big difference.

Israel attacked the Osirak reactor, but she didn't attack Iraq.

As for sabotage, that's been an ongoing effort for some time I'd imagine, successful too IIRC.

Attacking Osirak, but it not being an attack on Iraq, is a curious use of language.

Nate
 
It perhaps seems a little unfair how Israel is allowed to maintain it's policy of nuclear ambiguity (and subsequently not recognised by the NPT), all the while enormous amounts of pressure is heaped upon Iran when there is no direct evidence of an active weapons program.

By not acknowledging possession of nuclear weapons, Israel avoids a US legal prohibition on funding countries which proliferate weapons of mass destruction. Such an admission would prevent Israel from receiving over $3 billion each year in military and other aid from Washington.

There is a reason why the Jew have been hated for millenia..
 
Iran continued working on nuclear weapons at least until last year, including efforts to shrink a Pakistani warhead design to fit atop its ballistic missiles, a report from United Nations inspectors said.

Such a warhead could be mounted on Iran’s Shahab-3 missile, which has the range to reach Israel, according to the report.
Source
 

Again, completely unsubstantiated evidence. Lots of 'maybes' and 'coulds'.

When it comes to killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people and spending billions of the nations money, real facts are needed to back up their reason for starting a war.

This idea is lost on most people on here, it seems.
 
Again, completely unsubstantiated evidence. Lots of 'maybes' and 'coulds'.

When it comes to killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people and spending billions of the nations money, real facts are needed to back up their reason for starting a war.

This idea is lost on most people on here, it seems.

"45 minutes"?
 
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The Iranian President is actually highly educated, well spoken and a clever man. You may disagree with his views (but you probably dont even know what they are, only what they tell you on Sky News)

Far from a mad man.
How about on Iranian News? :)

 
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By not acknowledging possession of nuclear weapons, Israel avoids a US legal prohibition on funding countries which proliferate weapons of mass destruction. Such an admission would prevent Israel from receiving over $3 billion each year in military and other aid from Washington.

There is a reason why the Jew have been hated for millenia..

Adolf, thought you died in '45?
 
Again, completely unsubstantiated evidence. Lots of 'maybes' and 'coulds'.

With such an insightful mind I do hope you are not wasted in your job - you should clearly work for the intelligence services as its clear you know everything.

There is nothing wrong with the language in the report. You'll note that Obama's reaction to the report has not been 'LETS SEND IN THE BOMBS', either.
 
WMD's again? Pfft. When we have none ourself only then can we morally criticise others.
Have to agree here.

While I dislike the idea of any nation getting nukes, those who ALREADY have them (who have recently got involved in ILLEGAL wars) - do not have the right to criticise anybody.

Look at the USA's military history over the last 50 years - then compare it to Iran's.

Who is the bigger warmonger?.
 
Again, completely unsubstantiated evidence. Lots of 'maybes' and 'coulds'.

When it comes to killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people and spending billions of the nations money, real facts are needed to back up their reason for starting a war.

This idea is lost on most people on here, it seems.
Never stopped anybody before.

Evidence can be fabricated.
 
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