Incapcity Benefit, I'm on it.

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And have been on it for some time due to health/mental health problems, i'm not proud of it, I would love to have a career in the future, but I see that a lot of individuals tarnish people that are on benefits beit IB, JSA, DLA etc with the same brush saying "Scum" and "wastes of space", granted there are people that abuse the system and that gets my goat the majority of the time, it's people that need the help, they are the ones that are suffering.

I have loads of support from my Social Worker, Doctor, Neurologist and Physiatrist.

I've also had a questionnaire through the post to see if i'm eligible to be on the benefits that i'm on (soon to be called Employment and Support Allowance) and that is stressing me out, then once that is sent it's another agonising wait to see if i'm being called for a medical and that's also worrying me as i've heard they mainly focus on the physical side of your disability rather than the mental side. Sorry to ramble on but I just wanted to get things off of my chest.


Thanks for reading hope it made sense.:o
 
Yeah it made sense.

But let me say this. People here (and anywhere else) complain about people who abuse and take advantage of it. We don't abuse or hate those that really need it.

I take your point that there is a lot of negative hate about this benefit, and thats because people are not going to make threads or make discussions praising that who are on it for the right reasons.

Regarding the application, you sort of nail it yourself by what you've said. It's to see if you SHOULD be on it. If you are, then you have nothing to worry about. If you're called in for further talks/tests then it isn't to tell you to get back to work, but to clear anything up or make sure that you should remain on it.
 
I was on E&SA for about a year. There is no shame in it and I'll have words with anyone who says otherwise, assuming your case is genuine.
 
I'm also having Cognitive-behavioral therapy, which is helping. Thing is i've come so far to be where I am at the moment, I'm just frightened that the worry (I do tend to worry a lot) will send me backwards.

I have good days and bad ones, sometimes I can see light at the end of the tunnel. I really find it embarrassing typing this right now.:o

Cheers guys
 
I'm on DLA for hearing and sight loss. It's meant to be for life, had it since I was zero. I hear that a new system is replacing all of the benefits. I've wiki'd DLA but nothing there about what is replacing it. Any idea what it is?
 
If you have a genuine reason for it i'm glad it exists. :) unfortunately it's the people who do cash in hand jobs and are on incapacity or who can't be bothered to raise a finger to do an honest days labour which pull it down. :(

Hope you get sorted and get back to work. :)

Healthy lifestyle means a healthy individual. :)
 
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There are always people who will abuse a system, just like there will always be genuine cases. The problem is that it's never easy to distinguish between them.
 
Monserrat said:
I'm on DLA for hearing and sight loss. It's meant to be for life, had it since I was zero. I hear that a new system is replacing all of the benefits. I've wiki'd DLA but nothing there about what is replacing it. Any idea what it is?
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Universal credits are to be introduced in 2013 but will have no effect on your DLA claim for two reasons.

1. You've been awarded DLA indefinitely. This is generally avoided now as there is no legal way for them to cease payment (new claimants are usually awarded it for a set period with a review date).
2. Universal credits will replace means-tested benefits (e.g. JSA, ESA, tax credits) not non means-tested allowances (e.g. DLA, Carer's Allowance).
 
People like you are the reason we have it and need it and i'd fight to keep it. Those that take advantage are just scum.
 
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We don't abuse or hate those that really need it.
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Well said and agreed. I have zero issues funding those via my tax money that have legitimate issues. Who knows, I might need it myself one day. My problem lies with those that takes the **** out of the system. It's them I want to shoot.
 
Voltjunkie said:
1. You've been awarded DLA indefinitely. This is generally avoided now as there is no legal way for them to cease payment (new claimants are usually awarded it for a set period with a review date).
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I'm not sure how 'generally' you mean, but I was awarded DLA from the end of September and it's an indefinite award. Since I've had the condition since birth, I could have claimed it years ago, but like so many others, didn't know. My case was reviewed and awarded within a week, so it was pretty clear-cut.

Not that that will stop future benefits being cut, because I can assure you that government and countless authorities have done and will continue to do so. Some will get their day in court, others won't. Otherwise you wouldn't have countless legitimate charities such as the RNIB pounding the streets protesting about benefit cuts.

I, and I hope most others, don't begrudge people on benefits - so long as they're making an effort. It's the ones who get benefits and decide they can't or won't be bothered to do anything about it that bother me. Why should they live the high life while those who do make the effort have to go down the food bank just to make ends meet.
 
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davedudes said:
And have been on it for some time due to health/mental health problems, i'm not proud of it, I would love to have a career in the future, but I see that a lot of individuals tarnish people that are on benefits beit IB, JSA, DLA etc with the same brush saying "Scum" and "wastes of space", granted there are people that abuse the system and that gets my goat the majority of the time, it's people that need the help, they are the ones that are suffering.

I have loads of support from my Social Worker, Doctor, Neurologist and Physiatrist.

I've also had a questionnaire through the post to see if i'm eligible to be on the benefits that i'm on (soon to be called Employment and Support Allowance) and that is stressing me out, then once that is sent it's another agonising wait to see if i'm being called for a medical and that's also worrying me as i've heard they mainly focus on the physical side of your disability rather than the mental side. Sorry to ramble on but I just wanted to get things off of my chest.


Thanks for reading hope it made sense.:o
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You are right to be a little stressed about it as it is a pretty hostile experience but there is plenty of help out there so use it. Do not send the form off without getting some help. If you want I can stick something on googledocs for you to get a look at. Just bear in mind they do in my eyes mislead at the interview, for example, did you get here ok today - if you say yes then they say you have got the ability to travel and you score nothing on that point whereas if you said well my partner had to drive me here as my disorder prevents me from using public transport as I get confused then they have to take that into account. I am not saying lie but I am saying if you need help then make sure they know. If you say something happens some of the time but not all the time they will score it at your best ie not all the time whereas you need to just focus on your worst eg my disorder prevents me from walking more than 100m - you say that not some days I can some days I can't because then they will say you have admitted you can and score it as that.

Edit: This is the only thing I can find at the moment will try and find the one that relates to the physical side of things. But under a neurologist you should be scoring points here methinks: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...OWJhZi00ZWVkLTlmZjctMzk1YzFiM2E0NmRi&hl=en_GB

Edit Physical one here: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...MDUxZS00Y2EyLWE4NzMtZDE5ZjdmZmEyMDBm&hl=en_GB

Appeals here: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...MDMzNS00MmUyLWJmZjUtZGZkMzA4ZTk2NjZj&hl=en_GB

I know these are older ones but they should help somewhat - good luck!
 
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davedudes said:
And have been on it for some time due to health/mental health problems, i'm not proud of it, I would love to have a career in the future, but I see that a lot of individuals tarnish people that are on benefits beit IB, JSA, DLA etc with the same brush saying "Scum" and "wastes of space", granted there are people that abuse the system and that gets my goat the majority of the time, it's people that need the help, they are the ones that are suffering.
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The simple fact is that you are a drain on society. I don't mean that in a horrible way, it's just a fact. I don't mind helping to support you as long as you're genuinely ill. A percentage of those claiming the same benefits as you are taking the proverbial, and this is why some of the population hold the views you've described.

No-one wants to work their balls off and have their taxes wasted on people who could work but would rather take advantage.

Get well soon.
 
.Lethal said:
Yeah it made sense.

But let me say this. People here (and anywhere else) complain about people who abuse and take advantage of it. We don't abuse or hate those that really need it.

I take your point that there is a lot of negative hate about this benefit, and thats because people are not going to make threads or make discussions praising that who are on it for the right reasons.
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Exactly this. There's absolutely no shame in claiming benefits you're actually entitled to.
 
Xordium said:
You are right to be a little stressed about it as it is a pretty hostile experience but there is plenty of help out there so use it. Do not send the form off without getting some help. If you want I can stick something on googledocs for you to get a look at. Just bear in mind they do in my eyes mislead at the interview, for example, did you get here ok today - if you say yes then they say you have got the ability to travel and you score nothing on that point whereas if you said well my partner had to drive me here as my disorder prevents me from using public transport as I get confused then they have to take that into account. I am not saying lie but I am saying if you need help then make sure they know. If you say something happens some of the time but not all the time they will score it at your best ie not all the time whereas you need to just focus on your worst eg my disorder prevents me from walking more than 100m - you say that not some days I can some days I can't because then they will say you have admitted you can and score it as that.
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It depends on the circumstances - for instance I said that I struggle to navigate when not on familiar territory - which is entirely true. So it could be interpreted that I'm fine while on familiar territory, which could be argued is most of the time.

But the general principle is sound. The phrase I think best fits is 'glass half empty'. In other words, you need to consider your situation and make the worst of it.

While you could argue that this is gaming the system, that's just the way it works. You have to remember that the person assessing your case is unlikely to be familiar with you or your condition, so it's more important to explain to them what you struggle to do (even if you have ways of getting around the situation like I do with navigating) instead of what you can do. Just don't lie - that's benefit fraud and you can be expected to repay the lot if caught.

If in doubt, seek advice first.
 
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