Soldato
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I guess this will put an end to school hours part time work for a lot of lone parents that want to get back into work.
Take a bow, mighty conservative Britain, the workhouses are back
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Please don't speak for me. I'm a son of a farmer, come from very humble roots and class.
I am working while I do a degree to get my dream job. If those who choose to stay in a dead end job that is their choice.
.Working for a private company isn't doing anything for society.
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Firstly they are being paid, just not directly by the company.
Secondly the experience might actually land them a job. If they can't get work elsewhere then I'm afraid "big corporate Britain" is where you end up. Besides, even senior management have to do the corporate BS. What you mean is they're not getting paid much. High salaries come with experience not dossing.
The only way I can see this backfiring is if places like Tesco put off taking on new staff because they now rely on free labor provided by the government.
It is if it helps/encourages them to get a job and makes them more employable.
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http://www.metro.co.uk/news/881136-married-couple-driven-to-commit-suicide-by-utter-poverty
I'm guessing the people complaining about Tesco getting free labour have never had to supervise work experience students before?
Not only do you not get free labour, but the full time employees who you are paying to do a job have to take time out of their job to supervise and train them, so in actual fact, until these students are able to perform their tasks on their own without supervision, you're losing money.
Exactly this. That is the problem, people not thinking that they should have to do certain types of work because of what qualifications they have. I know people who have MEng's and are sitting on the dole instead of going and getting a retail/supermarket job. They reckon that they are above that. I'd rather go out and earn some decent money (compared to what they are on with JSA) than sit earning nothing all day. A job is a job, and that's it at the end of the day. A job is better than no job, no matter who you are or what pieces of paper you have or what the letters after your name say.
It will give the person a great reference if they do this for 6 weeks without problems. Also good experience, and if they are good enough the company may even opt to take them on fulltime.
I geniunely and whoel heartedly can't see any negatives to this scheme.
I geniunely and whoel heartedly can't see any negatives to this scheme.
Have you ever been on benefits, or grew up in a household with a disabled parent & carer?.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, it's not a big party with loads of money.
It's living in a crime infested scum-hole, having no money with no prospects.
Some are capable of pulling themselves out & doing very well, like myself & my brothers - but we have not forgotten how hard it can be for those without that drive.
Sorry, but this is bs? 6 weeks unpaid? They are being paid JSA. And to be honest, I think that's better than having them doing nothing. For the ones that want to work, its very good experience they can put on their CV to help them get onto the career ladder. For the lazy so and sos that take advantage, it will either cut off their money for their booze, cigs and drugs or actually get them doing hard labour for once. Excellent idea, I whole heartedly agree with it
Good Luck to you mate! I too came from pretty humble backgrounds... The working class are definately more squeezed now than they were under labour though and it has to change
Why focus on tesco, do you think poundland is taking over as well.
Do you actually think they can employ half there staff this way and reduce bills. Do you actually think that in most cases they will get useful work out of them. Have a rethink. Also which other companies or public sector do you think would handle such a scheme.
I lived on a council estate for 28 years of my life . Both my parents worked and taught me good values. My nextdoor neighbours were the epitome of what is generally described here.
They didn't work, they both smoked like chimneys, they did actually have a better TV / Car / Clothes / Social life for themselves and their kids than me or my parents ever had, and the kicker it was funded through the tax payer of which my parents were both. So my parents worked hard to put bread on our table and give us the basics we needed while getting taxed for the scum next door to have better of everything than we did for free ?
You social justice for all, left types actually make me want to puke considering I have seen it first hand.
What!?
You're not suggesting that the Guardian might misrepresent something in order to slur the name of Conservatism are you
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So a 3/4 mile trip each way, per day. Yeah, real hard.
I walked more than that going to Secondary School. That's like "just down the road" distance.
Poundland area big business, its make no sense to pander to retail its a dead end low skilled job.
http://www.financial-news.co.uk/3366/2011/10/500-go-for-job-35-jobs-at-co-op/
They need all the help they can get
FYI, just because you & I both broke out of the "working class" it does not mean everybody can.
Everybody is different & has a different level of natural drive, others lack the determination to achieve & get dragged down by the stresses of poverty.
Not everybody has good parents, or good role models to help them develop - poverty is only part of the problem - which is the inequality of opportunities in life.