30/11 Strikes.

Apparently BBC news weather presenters are striking today as well. Do we really need an army of weather bimbos on huge salaries and generous pensions to read the weather, can't they just get the regular newsreaders to do it?
 
TBH the strikers are like spoilt children. They are being offered something which is very generous given the economic gloom affecting the whole world economy, not just today but for the foreseeable future and maybe forever. Yet instead of recognising this and getting on with it, they throw their toys out of the pram and want more - more of other people's money. They MUST be resisted, their blackmail must fail.

Also personally, if it were legal which I suppose it isn't, when there comes the need for redundancies, the strikers can be first out the door.
 
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they throw their toys out of the pram and want more - more of other people's money. They MUST be resisted, their blackmail must fail.

They want more? That's news to me.

As far as I can tell, most would be happy to stay as they are. Most would also agree to a reasonable comprimise if it was offered.
 
Apparently BBC news weather presenters are striking today as well. Do we really need an army of weather bimbos on huge salaries and generous pensions to read the weather, can't they just get the regular newsreaders to do it?

On radio 4 this morning they said the met office report is not available but here is one from another source and then read the weather which was most comprehensive.
 
I hereby put forward a motion for private sector strikes in opposition to paying for the public sectors pensions.

Public sector on strike whist the private sector continues to work to pay for them ‘~’@~@@##

To be clear though, I have no problem with certain areas of the public sector getting better pay and pensions like the front-line emergency services staff and front-line healthcare / military staff, and I would support an even better deal for them but cut the rest. I draw the line that in the NHS, a band 5 office admin gets the same salary and benefits as a band 5 nurse.
 
They want more? That's news to me.

As far as I can tell, most would be happy to stay as they are. Most would also agree to a reasonable comprimise if it was offered.

It is a reasonable compromise.

Nobody retiring in the next 10 years will be affected at all.

Anyone retiring after that will still receive a much more generous pension than their counterparts in the private sector. Subsidised by other people's money, ie. from private sector workers.

Yes it isn't popular that they are being offered less than they would previously have got. But that was never sustainable and the country will be bankrupted unless we get a grip on spiralling public spending, which includes subsidising pensions. People are also living longer. People in the private sector are having to pay more into THEIR pensions and retire later. Why the hell should the public sector be cossetted and featherbedded against REALITY?
 
It is because of the marxist culture, some how the british education system and labour government encourage a sort of marxist ideology amongst the public sector. As well as labour party encouraging unions, this becomes a vicious circle of sorts. The marxist culture is all about the "good fight" the fight for "workers rights". A few months ago milliband stood up and did a speech about the student protests where he compared the "plight" of the students protesting for cheaper education to the slaves fighting for freedom and the fight for womens rights and the fight for racial equality in the usa. Which of course just speaks volumes to the state of illusion that these muppets are in. They honestly believe that this is a conspiracy by the "private sector" or the corporate run conservatives against the "working class" which of course is what all the public sector workers classify themselves as. The public sector workers, in general, believe that they are doing gods work, a much more holy job than that of the private sector. Th public sector is reserved for people who are doing life and death jobs, this is why they are entitled to additional benefits. Ok that might be going a bit far, but realy it is about greed, at the end of the day, when you push past all the marxist BS and rhetoric about workers and unions etc. You just have a greedy person who wants more money.
 
:D Hilarious.

Before you structure an argument over getting-rid of weather presenters due to their 'high salaries' - I suggest you find out how much they earn!

Even if they are paid £15k which they obviously aren't, why do we need them at all?

I'll be amazed if they don't get £50k + £generous wardrobe allowance + early retirement + £gold plated BBC pension
 
although they argue that it isn't about the amount, it is about the promise and principle, as well as the need to work a couple of years longer and pay 3.2% more in contributions,(although the accural rate is substantially better)....something the Police have been doing for some time already.

Police currently pay 11% of their salary in pension contributions and if the Hutton report bears fruit it will rise to 13-14%.
 
I work in a university, and am a member of Unison, but have just crossed the picket line to come in to work. I support my colleagues right to strike for what they believe in, but also at the same time I reserve the right to not join in with something I don't agree with.

I don't believe the strikes will achieve anything in the long term, and I holding on to the current pensions isn't sustainable at the moment.

Crossing the actual picket line wasn't too bad as I managed to sneak in a trade entrance, but the fact that my office is a big glass box on the front of the building, overlooking the Council office picket line isn't great, lol.

So if the strikes have the desired effect and the gov't offer a acceptable alternative because of the strike, will you take the pension that others have fought for, or will you be happy to accept the offer that has caused all this?
 
So if the strikes have the desired effect and the gov't offer a acceptable alternative because of the strike, will you take the pension that others have fought for, or will you be happy to accept the offer that has caused all this?

The strikes won't change anything though. This isn't a Labour government.
 
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