30/11 Strikes.

topshot said:
The fact that a lot of staff at the schools ive been in this week wont be striking says it all, regardless of what a poll of 1000 people says.
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My colleague's daughter had to go to school for one lesson this morning, because all her other teachers were on strike. Which teacher wasn't striking, I hear you cry? The ethics teacher.
 
amigafan2003 said:
How does that fit in with your stereotype of a lefty, militant, career trade unionist?
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Nobody is a stereotype as people do not conform to standards.

So why anyone would want to become a member of a union beats me. it is just more people telling you what you should think and do. Just a different boss and one you can't meet.
 
amigafan2003 said:
Nope - they'd have probably made it worse.



Nope



Rather than me explaining it, go and have a read of a few of the Green parties policies.



I disagree - the level of financial irresponsibility - at least towards those who don't have enough capital to not care, is astounding.



I agree.



I've never voted Labour and I can't see myself ever doing so in the forseable future.


How does that fit in with your stereotype of a lefty, militant, career trade unionist?
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I am not stereotyping here. I can only really quote labour as realistically they are the only real serious alternative based on the way the current electorate votes and the current voting system in the UK.

And they were serious questions, not directly aimed at anyone in particular but to the general population of people on here that continuously spout how good it would be for the current government to implode / collapse.
 
nkata said:
Nobody is a stereotype as people do not conform to standards.
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Halleluyah!

So why anyone would want to become a member of a union beats me. it is just more people telling you what you should think and do. Just a different boss and one you can't meet.
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That's funny becuase in my Union (branch and sector especially) it's our members that tell us what to do. I'd be lynched if I ever went into a members meeting and told them to do something.

We even have a 5 day conference in Brighton every year specifically to take instruction from the membership about what direction and actions they want the Union to take.

Tell me, what real world experiences do you have of Unions - because on the surface you sound like you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
 
wildman said:
And they were serious questions, not directly aimed at anyone in particular but to the general population of people on here that continuously spout how good it would be for the current government to implode / collapse.
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Everyone is so impatient, though. What? George Osborne hasn't fixed the hole in the UK budget within 18 months of taking office? The global financial crisis isn't solved? What's he been doing with himself! The lazy arse.

That and politics seems to be all about what you don't stand for, rather than what you do stand for. It's a whole lot easier to moan about what the other guy is doing than to actually come up with a credible alternative.
 
topshot said:
Glad to see the teachers stood at the entrance to the school im working at getting abuse from passing motorists. Maybe it will be a wake up call of just how good they have/had it.
I mean a job for life, early retirement, plenty of holiday, sick pay, easy working conditions, generous pension, yea i can see the need to strike :rolleyes:
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Ok I'll take the bait. What hours do you work? If teaching is so good why didn't you become one?
 
amigafan2003 said:
Tell me, what real world experiences do you have of Unions - because on the surface you sound like you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
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In the 1970's following a 3 month stint in a bank, I went working in a series of engineering shops as a semi skilled lathe operator. This was a unionised workplace and it was compulsory to join. In two years we had had more disputes over the most stupid rules ever and the worst was 'one out all out' so that any ****head could start a walkout.

Following that I worked on sites in Liverpool and the North west, by then I had started a professional route to becoming an engineer albeit an unorthodox one so did not need to join a union.

I appreciate things are now much improved following Margaret Thatcher but I have always disliked the idea since of joining a union. Luckily now I work in a position where individual negotiation and recognition is the norm.
 
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topshot said:
Glad to see the teachers stood at the entrance to the school im working at getting abuse from passing motorists. Maybe it will be a wake up call of just how good they have/had it.
I mean a job for life, early retirement, plenty of holiday, sick pay, easy working conditions, generous pension, yea i can see the need to strike :rolleyes:
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haha
 
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