'man' feeds kitten to his pet snake

Wizzfizz · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:12

torN said:
i think theres something wrong with you mate.

im very disturbed.

Angst · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:12

So what is the difference between a rat and a kitten? If he fed it a Guinea pig would the reaction be the same as the rat or the kitten??

dfarrall · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:12

Nerusy said:
If you want your snakes to eat live food release it into the wild.

So what your saying is its better to let it die because it wont eat dead food?

Glaucus · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:13

Nerusy said:
What nature are you talking abut, cats are domesticated animals, pet snakes are not in their natural habitat, they have no threat of a predator eating them.

You can't apply nature law when the rules have far changed.

If you want your snakes to eat live food release it into the wild.

Nature will happen, leave a snake alone it will kill anything it can.

Just like cats are "domestic iced" bs. They go hunting as its in their genetics. They reguly bring back song birds, rats and anything else they can get their paws on.

Moothead2 · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:13

Angst said:
So what is the difference between a rat and a kitten? If he fed it a Guinea pig would the reaction be the same as the rat or the kitten??

Same reaction from me. Any animal shouldn't be eaten alive in a domesticated environment.

RopAyy · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:14

torN said:
so being crushed to death by a snake is fine?

Its how they feed, its part of the food chain. Its natural and has no human involvement.

Raikiri said:
Well that's not true, unless you mean stuff like locusts/crickets for lizards.

Ive been around snakes since i was little, most places and reptile houses breed mice purely to feed and most live.
some have ones that feed on the dead, this just makes it easier to 'keep as a pet' but most just feed live.
Its more natural for the snake and healthier, you know the food is fit for purpose if its alive.

Still if not the reptiles still have to killed before been frozen anyway so either way its left to the snake to kill and eat or to humans to kill and freeze!

Killerkebab · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:15

Angst said:
So what is the difference between a rat and a kitten? If he fed it a Guinea pig would the reaction be the same as the rat or the kitten??

For me, yes. I take issue with the fact he acquired a pet from someone and used it as food and entertainment, which is clearly not what a pet is for.
The same way I'd find it disgusting if he were to kill the cat himself and eat it.

Nerusy · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:15

Glaucus said:
Nature will happen, leave a snake alone it will kill anything it can.

Just like cats are "domestic iced" bs. They go hunting as its in their genetics. They reguly bring back song birds, rats and anything else they can get their paws on.

Exactly cats go out and do that, you don't see anybody buying a bird and feeding it live to their cat.

Wizzfizz · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:16

Killerkebab said:
For me, yes. I take issue with the fact he acquired a pet from someone and used it as food and entertainment, which is clearly not what a pet is for.
The same way I'd find it disgusting if he were to kill the cat himself and eat it.

Do you know what kebabs are made of?

Glaucus · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:16

Nerusy said:
Exactly cats go out and do that, you don't see anybody buying a bird and feeding it live to their cat.

And?
Cats will eat pretty much everything and I think you would be prosecuted if you let your snake out to hunt.

Daft argument.

Skillmister · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:17

Killerkebab said:
I felt angered, though I'm at a loss as to why. Maybe because I have cats I feel emotionally invested.

Pretty much this. As much as it annoys me there's no difference really whether it's a cat or a rat other than how people perceive them. It definitely wouldn't make the "news" if it was a rat.

Jambo · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:17

Glaucus said:
Nature will happen, leave a snake alone it will kill anything it can.

Just like cats are "domestic iced" bs. They go hunting as its in their genetics. They reguly bring back song birds, rats and anything else they can get their paws on.

Which is fine but this idiot interfered with nature. Sick stunt in my opinion and I hope they are punished.

Wizzfizz · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:18

Glaucus said:
And?
Cats will eat pretty much everything and I think you would be prosecuted if you let your snake out to hunt.

Daft argument.

That would depend on what 'sort of' snake you're talking about. I've heard the trouser snake is quite common these days.

RopAyy · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:18

torN said:
i think theres something wrong with you mate.

Oh please do explain why i have issues?
Make it quick though, i may snap and let my sociopathic tendencies get the better of me and start hunting bigger prey for my pets, im thinking tonight, he can dine on human!

Angst · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:18

Nerusy said:
Exactly cats go out and do that, you don't see anybody buying a bird and feeding it live to their cat.

edit quoted wrong thing
Well you can't let a snake out to go feed itself can you :rolleyes:

Glaucus · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:18

Killerkebab said:
For me, yes. I take issue with the fact he acquired a pet from someone and used it as food and entertainment, which is clearly not what a pet is for.
The same way I'd find it disgusting if he were to kill the cat himself and eat it.

A pet is how you treat it.
He purchased some living meat. Most farmers treat their animals as pets before taking them to slaughter. What is the actual difference? Something tangiable? Or just emotion in the head?

As I said before in similar threads. I don't mind which side of the fence people fall. But I hate the inconsistent views based on nothing tangiable.

Wizzfizz · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:19

Angst said:
Well you can't let a snake out to go feed itself can you

Raikiri · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:20

RopAyy said:
Ive been around snakes since i was little, most places and reptile houses breed mice purely to feed and most live.

Mine is getting on for 12 years old now, never once had live food.

RopAyy said:
some have ones that feed on the dead, this just makes it easier to 'keep as a pet' but most just feed live.

Every place I've bought food from have said they use frozen.

RopAyy said:
Its more natural for the snake and healthier, you know the food is fit for purpose if its alive.

They're the same mice though, it's not like quickly freezing them using dry ice removes anything.

RopAyy said:
Still if not the reptiles still have to killed before been frozen anyway so either way its left to the snake to kill and eat or to humans to kill and freeze!

A couple of reasons, it's a lot quicker if we kill them and much safer for the snake. Frozen food doesn't bite back

Killerkebab · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:20

Skillmister said:
Pretty much this. As much as it annoys me there's no difference really whether it's a cat or a rat other than how people perceive them. It definitely wouldn't make the "news" if it was a rat.

You don't think so? If he'd bought a rat as a pet, dressed it up, and fed it to his snake, all filmed for the internet?

The man's sick and twisted. In this instance, he's not feeding his snake for the sake of feeding, that much is obvious.

Again, whether or not this warrants tracking him down is another matter.

Nerusy · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:21

Glaucus said:
And?
Cats will eat pretty much everything and I think you would be prosecuted if you let your snake out to hunt.

Daft argument.

Daft argument if you can't read and only interested in your own backwards view.

You point was it's nature, my point it is not, dynamics have changed.

I am not proposing you release your snake to feed on the streets to naturally eat live food, it was a comparison for the sake of the argument.

Tone down on the aggressiveness by the way, you're starting to fire me up.

As for the topic if live feeding is necessary then fair enough. But you tell me is it necessary to feed a kitten out of all things, a pet that has been domesticated 10,000 years ago. As for hypocrisy I think it was very unnecessary to feed a live small snake to that kitten.

EDIT: Thank you Raikiri for bringing common sense to the topic along with person experience.