There's not a market for it in Britain though if there was then the farms would have existed long before the laws preventing them (are there even laws against this?) and it would have been considered normal and never banned in the first place.
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There's not a market for it in Britain though if there was then the farms would have existed long before the laws preventing them (are there even laws against this?) and it would have been considered normal and never banned in the first place.
yes....
who said I was taking the cold 'logic approach' I'm arguing against eating kittens etc....
Yes, cats and dogs can't be farmed for eating, got a feeling horses are the same.
There wasn't such a diverse group long ago and there is a fairly large scene of trying new and "disgusting" foods.
Actuall it seems in the 18th century at geek shows ate cats as part of a grotesque live festival. Also eaten in ww1 and ww2 in England by desperate people.
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There are still societies today where humans are eaten - what objection would you have to eating a human?
They are humans and have a hole host of problems.
Society, health, families etc.
But please keep repeating yourself with no discussion or remarking on those points. That's always fun after the fith post of the same worded, no content post.
They are humans and have a hole host of problems.
Society, health, families etc.
But please keep repeating yourself with no discussion or remarking on those points. That's always fun after the fith post of the same worded, no content post.
Just as there were valid points against pet snakes eating kittens which you chose to ignore...
Though in order to remove the irrelevant points assuming you lived in a society where it was feasible and the particular human for consumption was screened for disease etc... perhaps selected based on some crude classification race/religion or simply from another country.... but regardless of that - assuming you lived in a society where eating humans was both feasible and acceptable would you object to the idea of eating humans?
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Makes no sense to me, as long as it wasn't tortured etc, I can't see how it's vastly different to breeding mice or crickets for the same purpose tbh.
The reaction in this thread is why there is a vast amount of money wasted keeping thousands of cats/dogs in sanctuaries which could be better spent IMO.
The reaction in this thread is why there is a vast amount of money wasted keeping thousands of cats/dogs in sanctuaries which could be better spent IMO.
No I haven't ignored them, see the zillion posts and replies.
Of course I would, because again and you see you still aren't debating the points raised.
Humans are part of are race, we live in a society (world) not just uk. For society to function you can't have such acts. How would you feel if someone legally eat your mum.
Animals are not the same, we eat loads of animals and many of us would eat any animal as long as it tasted good.
You still aren't debating, you still aren't responding to the points and this still isn't proving your argument and never will. Becuase humans are humans and part of society.
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I thought you said feelings were supposed to be irrelevant...
I thought you said feelings were supposed to be irrelevant...
Not irrelevant, universal, no double standards. Even said public opion still needs to be used to define the boundaries, after the initial laws are based on evidence.
And doesn't applie to up humans and your own family, for a very logical reason. We are all humans,
Humans are quite capable of killing other humans en masse. In some societies humans have certainly eaten other humans (though it is rarer these days). Humans are animals... and humans have certainly been capable of categorising others along tribal, racial, religious lines... no one is asking you to consider a situation where your own family is at risk...
You're arguing that logically killing a kitten shouldn't be any different to killing any other animal. Except you don't seem to want to directly answer whether or not you'd think eating a human is acceptable.
Sure you've stated that there would be legal/social implications but presuming that eating humans was acceptable in the society you lived in (it certainly has been in some in the past)
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What has humans killing humans got to do with it? That makes no sense.
Yes I have directly answered it. We are humans and all other animals are other animals. We eat some animals so why not the rest. Excluding humans. Becuase we are all humans, highly social and live in a society which needs laws for the greater kind.
A rat is seen as vermin (occasionally as a pet). A cat is seen by the majority of the population as a pet, a kitten more so. That's why the majority of folk find this so distasteful as people do not wish to see pets suffer.
Personally I don't like seeing any animals suffer, be it rat cat or snake. I'm no fan of cats (I can't abide them truth be told) but I can't condone sick behaviour like that, there really is no need. The guy is clearly taking pleasure out of parading the suffering of one animal at the expense of another in a video just to get a rise out of people. This is wrong and morally deficient.
Personally I don't like seeing any animals suffer, be it rat cat or snake. I'm no fan of cats (I can't abide them truth be told) but I can't condone sick behaviour like that, there really is no need. The guy is clearly taking pleasure out of parading the suffering of one animal at the expense of another in a video just to get a rise out of people. This is wrong and morally deficient.
Because eating humans would naturally involve killing humans...
Why exclude humans?
Stable societies have existed where certain humans have been killed for whatever reason...
You wouldn't be suggesting that silly things like feelings/emotions should stop us from eating humans....????
how many times do I need to react my self?
Given you the answers about a million times.
What society's have massive killed, or mass catabolism. That have been large and sustainable and with populations as high as the modern world and in a global sense like the modern world.
Zero.
Again I haven't said emotion should have no basis. Public opinion is need to draw a line, but laws should be based on evidence and not have double standards.
Humans are not a food source for humans in a modern society and that isn't just based on emotions. That's based on good principles.
Eating a rabbit but not a cat, is not based on any such principles, it is purely emoyptional with no underplaying evidence.
I think you can tell a lot about society/people by the way it treats it's animals, hence why I dislike cultural aspects like halal meat.
The particular video sounds pretty nasty, and even though I'd concede that it's an animal and thus shouldn't really be legislated for, I would think less of someone who put something through unnecessary suffering.
The particular video sounds pretty nasty, and even though I'd concede that it's an animal and thus shouldn't really be legislated for, I would think less of someone who put something through unnecessary suffering.
Societies are constantly changing, there have been many instances where humans have killed other enmasse... Slavery existed for centuries, cannibalism has existed in Africa for centuries...
Main point is that kittens are domestic pets, they're perceived as part of the family, people attribute human emotions to them. The objections to feeding one to a pet snake are based on feelings/emotions. But objections to eating humans (assuming a society existed where eating humans was feasible and permissible) is also based on similar (and rather stronger) emotions/feelings...
And there's decent evidence on why humans should treat humans in that way.
There is no such evidence for cats.
So try again.
Not eating humans is based on a lot more than emotions. You can not give one reason why cats should not be eaten. Other than emotional. That's the issue.
There is no such evidence for cats.
So try again.
Not eating humans is based on a lot more than emotions. You can not give one reason why cats should not be eaten. Other than emotional. That's the issue.
Its based on emotions/feelings... the fact that most people would object to it... we certainly still have ample capacity to wage wars and kill other humans on a large scale...
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