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So who's ditching 6900 series for 7900?

no point tbh games are 99 percent ports or lack the real grunt we have now and bf3 is unoptimised

also 7850/7870 is just basically same as the current 6950 and 70 so no point again if on a high end 5 series or 6 series

and the top cards which unless you on 3 monitors or play at extreme res are needed are going to cost the earth !!! 400 minimum going on to best part of 700 quid ! with it being the skintist month of the year great idea to launch the most expensive card during the month when everyone is skint = genius !

so no quite happy :)

also only game to test for nesxt year minimum and said before bf3 is unoptimised. even on these new cards you gunna have to pay through the nose for ultra and still only get a handful more fps at highest res for a lot of money.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
no point tbh games are 99 percent ports or lack the real grunt we have now and bf3 is unoptimised
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Sadly that is how it is on the PC. And, it will remain that way too.

I will stick my neck out and say that if a game was coded properly, with the time and effort needed, it would look three times better than BF3 on something like a GTX 285.

It isn't their fault though. It's AMD and Nvidia's fault. They hand over a new GPU every five minutes that can "excuse" the poor coding. And time is money..
 
thing is a lot of people will have a decent card already or upgraded for bf3

also these new cards start on sale in the worst month of year also with lack of game to push cards its going to be a sales nightmare for all companies tbh

chat all the bs about sales but you going to earn your money selling these :p
 
Doesn't matter what month they get released, what price, how good they are, lack of decent pc games blah blah blah

People buy them for forum bragging rights

You wait, the day after release people will be posting photos of the cardboard box it comes in and screenshots of benchmarks. They will spend more time telling people about what they have got, rather than playing games.
 
glen8 said:
You wait, the day after release people will be posting photos of the cardboard box it comes in and screenshots of benchmarks. They will spend more time telling people about what they have got, rather than playing games.
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i dont remember the technical name, but the perceived value of high-cost goods is only apparent because of their possession and the apparent lack of possession of others - which is a fancy was of saying that, yes, people will by these new cards for epeen :p
 
glen8 said:
Doesn't matter what month they get released, what price, how good they are, lack of decent pc games blah blah blah

People buy them for forum bragging rights

You wait, the day after release people will be posting photos of the cardboard box it comes in and screenshots of benchmarks. They will spend more time telling people about what they have got, rather than playing games.
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:D

Cold, but true.
 
no plan of upgrading graphics in near future, got crossfire 6950's and they are more than enough for what i play just now.
will probably wait till generation of cards after that, the 7's sound nice but no real need to upgrade yet, not going to spend money on cards just for the sake of spending money, i reckon the setup i have now will keep me satisfyed for the next year or 2.
 
I have two 6950s, I was thinking of upgrading but if the 7970s are released at the prices expected then I'll stick with what I have, way too expensive!
 
old gamer said:
didnt get on with xfire and eyefinity so would be keen on a single powerfull card with 3gb ram
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The problem with the 7970 is what it has on offer.

It's going to be an odd card..

Firstly it looks like (because I remember Bulldozer charts !) it could possibly be the first ever 1600p single GPU card. However, according to Steam 85% or so people use 1080p. A whacking chunk use less, and the rest use more than 1080p . Don't forget you need to add in three screen gamers, six screen gamers and so on into that 15%.

OK, so if it truly does perform as much as the bravado suggests? then yes, it will have a place in the market for niche resolutions. Which is great, but niche products tend to cater to one group..

OK, let's move on. Let's say that it also appeals to three screen users. But, there are very very few of those either. I have duly noted that it has all this new stuff for three screen gamers. Things like proper desktop centering, low idle temps on multiple monitors and so on.

But what does that offer the majority 85% user?

Lots of FPS. Lots of FPS that they don't need.

BF 3 at 1080p with everything set to ultra, with HBAO and 4XFSAA the 6970 and 580 (in both vram flavours) can run the game with FPS never entering the 20s. And that's all a card needs to do.

So what is the point in spending £500 or so on a card for that? When you can buy a card at half that price that can already do what it needs to do?

See, one thing the 7970 will do is drive down prices. Cool right? well yeah, but it will make the 7970 an even more niche product than it already is.

Sure, you will get the "Enthusiasts" (IE - the spoiled kid who needs to have everything) turning up, but in the grand scheme of things the "enthusiast" takes about 0.000000001% of the PC market.

Obviously 90% falls to £300 Dells and crappy laptops ETC. We are the minority and always were.

I can see the prices of this 7970 dropping like a stone. Sure, there will be the initial flurry of sales to the "Enthusiasts" but once they're done they'll have a ruddy hard job convincing people to hand over £500 for something that is, at best, a little bit pointless.
 
ALXAndy said:
The problem with the 7970 is what it has on offer.

It's going to be an odd card..

Firstly it looks like (because I remember Bulldozer charts !) it could possibly be the first ever 1600p single GPU card. However, according to Steam 85% or so people use 1080p. A whacking chunk use less, and the rest use more than 1080p . Don't forget you need to add in three screen gamers, six screen gamers and so on into that 15%.

OK, so if it truly does perform as much as the bravado suggests? then yes, it will have a place in the market for niche resolutions. Which is great, but niche products tend to cater to one group..

OK, let's move on. Let's say that it also appeals to three screen users. But, there are very very few of those either. I have duly noted that it has all this new stuff for three screen gamers. Things like proper desktop centering, low idle temps on multiple monitors and so on.

But what does that offer the majority 85% user?

Lots of FPS. Lots of FPS that they don't need.

BF 3 at 1080p with everything set to ultra, with HBAO and 4XFSAA the 6970 and 580 (in both vram flavours) can run the game with FPS never entering the 20s. And that's all a card needs to do.

So what is the point in spending £500 or so on a card for that? When you can buy a card at half that price that can already do what it needs to do?

See, one thing the 7970 will do is drive down prices. Cool right? well yeah, but it will make the 7970 an even more niche product than it already is.

Sure, you will get the "Enthusiasts" (IE - the spoiled kid who needs to have everything) turning up, but in the grand scheme of things the "enthusiast" takes about 0.000000001% of the PC market.

Obviously 90% falls to £300 Dells and crappy laptops ETC. We are the minority and always were.

I can see the prices of this 7970 dropping like a stone. Sure, there will be the initial flurry of sales to the "Enthusiasts" but once they're done they'll have a ruddy hard job convincing people to hand over £500 for something that is, at best, a little bit pointless.
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Yes yes yes and all that, but you fail to also acknowledge that the sales of larger monitors are on the rise, what with the relative cost of them coming down. Let's be frank, the number of people dropping an easy grand or so on a 30" Dell will always stay as it has been, but the uptake of £500 27" suckers is definitely happening. As such, you're going to increasingly need some horsepower to drive them...

Like me - I made the mistake of buying a 30" so now a 7970 is what I'm going for at the very least. Probably (eventually) 2.
 
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