e-petition for thatcher to get a privatised state funeral

I too believe that past events have no affect on my daily life, it is why I do not see the problem with Hitler and his actions, after all, I wasn't alive then!

jeasus my sarcasm meter jsut exploded, if anyone here should have a grudge agaisnt here then it should be me, i grew up in the welsh valleys.
there is no jobs, no shops. No social accept run down rugby clubs theres nothing here, the schools are a joke, hence the sucides around bridgend.
but i don't hate maggie thatcher I hate the unions and I cant wait till arthur scargill gets his. greed cost the uk its manufacturing quater.
 
[TW]Fox;20860475 said:
You don't think its suprising that he can have so much hatred for somebody he never knew outside of the history books - somebody who, unlike Hitler, wasn't obviously responsible for, say, mass murder or genocide?

Quite a step from 'I don't agree with what I have read about her policies' to 'scum, pure evil scum' don't you think? :eek:

Any worse than 18 year old up and coming Tories burning effigies of Obama?

What American plight are they suffering?
 
[TW]Fox;20860516 said:
Not as bad as that, infact. That's even worse. Just mindless bandwagoning.

or racism hidden behind politcal disguises.

Can't really take america serious, what sort of country protestests agaisnt free healthcare for all:rolleyes:
 
[FnG]magnolia;20858508 said:
More than half of your posts so far appear to be about someone who was in Government when you weren't even born. What's the back story here?

More than half his posts are like this -

I don't get this thread?
and
Cool story bro.

EDIT: I didn't see the for your time bit.

Worst 'New Sceintist.
Been reading this quite frequently recently. I think it's a good read but it's quite expensive! The aim of this thread is three fold:

1) Do any of you here read this?
2) If not, and you read an alternative, what is it?
3) Are there any subscription discounts available? I've found a 40% off but have seen rumours of much better!

Cheers for your help.

For your time:'
Thread ever.

Worst 'Assaulted with a broomstick to the head' thread ever.

Cool story bro.

Worst 'Here's an idea (probably a flop, but hopefully not!), I post a word, the next poster posts a word that links or connects to the word above' thread ever.

Worst 'So, absolutely not inspired by the great, great show Misfits, I wonder what the brokens of GD would choose as their super power if they were in a position to be offered one.

I think I'd go for healing hands. The ability to make people better appeals.

What say you?' Thread ever.

Worst 'My mum told me to stop hanging around with her because she was a girl and because I am muslim but now I'm all grown up but would like to smash her back doors in and well regret it' Thread

Cool story bro, but go find someone else, plenty more fish in the sea.

Cool story bro.
 
[TW]Fox;20860516 said:
Not as bad as that, infact. That's even worse. Just mindless bandwagoning.

It is worse, not only because of the action and impact but because it is highly unlikely they would feel the implication of the Obama administration anyway.

However, with those who appear more visceral or commited in their dislike or even hatred can often be people who perhaps did not live under her reign but is possible they can still see tangible negative attributes and effects left in their community or wider.

I'm not trying to excuse all offence behavour in this scope, and yes there are always other factors like generational politics or indoctrination if you would but there are those who are able to come to their own, heated, conclusions irrespective of age.
 
[TW]Fox;20860551 said:
Err I presume he is talking about English people not Americans :confused:

They were Scottish actually, St Andrews University Conservative Boys Club or something.

They have burned others like Gordon Brown etc. Now they got found out they don't do it no more.

Next week is white sheets and ponies..
 
[TW]Fox;20860475 said:
You don't think its suprising that he can have so much hatred for somebody he never knew outside of the history books - somebody who, unlike Hitler, wasn't obviously responsible for, say, mass murder or genocide?

Quite a step from 'I don't agree with what I have read about her policies' to 'scum, pure evil scum' don't you think? :eek:

Considering what some people blame her for, and considering some people consider the offshoot of said things to be directly affecting them negatively to this day, no I do not think its surprising at all, and the fact that you fail to understand this says a lot about your understanding of things in general.
 
You have a problem with people using Godwin?

It's widely regarded as a pretty limp argument in these parts (by which I mean the Interweb), so yes, I do have a problem with it. If your argument in defence of people taking exception to things that occurred before their lifetime is to immediately leap to Hitler, then you're not trying very hard. Surely there are some things you could think of that Thatcher actually did to point out to Fox that it's perfectly fair to dislike her?
 
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It's widely regarded as a pretty limp argument in these parts (by which I mean the Interweb), so yes, I do have a problem with it. If your argument in defence of people taking exception to things that occurred before their lifetime is to immediately leap to Hitler, then you're not trying very hard. Surely there are some things you could think of that Thatcher actually did to point out to Fox that it's perfectly fair to dislike her?

Or I can use an analogy that refutes the idea that people cannot be disliked for something they have done before individuals are born, which is what Foxs point was. His point was not that he didn't know why people didn't like her was it?

Basically what im saying is, Godwin isn't bad, its just an observation.

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches." - wiki

You have failed to understand the difference between someone using a common and popular analogy that has been given a name, albeit one that is often not used correctly, and someone using a flawed argument.

In short, take your "good work" and shove it.
 
Or I can use an analogy that refutes the idea that people cannot be disliked for something they have done before individuals are born, which is what Foxs point was. His point was not that he didn't know why people didn't like her was it?

Basically what im saying is, Godwin isn't bad, its just an observation.

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches." - wiki

You have failed to understand the difference between someone using a common and popular analogy that has been given a name, albeit one that is often not used correctly, and someone using a flawed argument.

In short, take your "good work" and shove it.

So, anything constructive to say about Thatcher, now that you've proven me wrong?
 
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