Is Harry Potter against/anti religion?

dirtychinchilla said:
fair enough
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there's lots of definitions especially modern. But simplist is


Atheist can't be any deity
Agnostic don't care, don't know, can't prove.
Theist believes in some higher thing.

Of course now you have weak and strong atheists and a myriad of other things which makes it much more complicated.
 
Agnosticism is defined as: A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena.

So I'm not agnostic. There is no god. What am I then?
 
Back to the OP, I think there are lots of Christians about that take everything to the extreme. I am a Christian and I couldn't care less what folks watch. It is up to an individual what way they take things. There are some NT teachings that do mention some 'set in stone' things but most of life is up to ourselves.

The other thing that many folks seem to miss is that being a christian is something that happens when faith is placed in Jesus. It isn't just casually saying 'I'm a Christian' as if it's some sort of fuzzy feeling lifestyle. I have no issues with watching harry potter, with celebrating christmas or contraception. I also don't believe that my faith will cause any issues/hurt/offence/war towards anyone.

My final point is that people assume that Christians and Catholics are very similar. I in no way agree with most of the practices that go on in that particular place. Similarly I don't even agree with some practices that other christian churches employ. I think quite a bit is up for interpretation so there will always be differences.
 
ringo747 said:
I also don't believe that my faith will cause any issues/hurt/offence/war towards anyone.
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Surely this statement is wrong because we KNOW that harm has been caused in the name of religion. In particular one could refer to the crusades...

edit: unless you're referring to your personal faith instead of the faith as a whole?
 
dirtychinchilla said:
Surely this statement is wrong because we KNOW that harm has been caused in the name of religion. In particular one could refer to the crusades...

edit: unless you're referring to your personal faith instead of the faith as a whole?
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Personal and genuine Christian faith. In this modern day how can I cause harm to anyone just for having a belief?
 
ringo747 said:
I do agree that other religions have contributed. I don't believe you can tar the whole religion thing with the one brush though.
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And you can't hold on to the past and you can't blame everything for mans issues.

Are we going to ban politics becuase people don't think we should have gone in to Iraq,
Was it politics fault that happened, or mans?
 
ringo747 said:
Personal and genuine Christian faith. In this modern day how can I cause harm to anyone just for having a belief?
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You can cause harm to yourself just by having the wrong belief in the wrong place, others will deny that religion plays a major part in many world conflicts.

But how can anyone deny that Pakistan was born of India simply because of different religions & the massacre that followed the separation is beyond me, same goes for Israel & Palestine,
 
Usher said:
It's interesting how your version of events differs from just about everyone else

I think some of your unique views should be labeled Castielite views so they can be documented for posterity

So You don't think that lack of birth control leads to large 3rd world population & starvation, another interesting Castielite joke :rolleyes:

Your attempt to be clever falls flat as usual :p
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Do you understand anything about Famine or the causes of Famine in the third world.....

Crop failures, Military Conflict, Weather (Primarily Flood and Drought), Poor Land Use, Food Availability Decline, Government Policy, Economic Breakdown and so on are all serious and important contributors to the effect that lead to Famine. Many African Nations are not overpopulated, with a population density far lower than Western Europe and the United States for example, and so to state that religion is the cause of Famine in Africa is foolish and shows a distinct ignorance of the reality of what is actually happening in the world.

Also within the sub-Saharan African Nations the reasons they have many children is not because religion tells them to, but because children are one of their few assets, most families need as many children as possible to combat a range of socio economic factors such as high infant mortality, low life expectancy, the need of cheap labour and so on all contribute to large family sizes.....what is happening in Africa over recent decades is the spacing between pregnancies is getting smaller, which is contributing to increased pressure on family units and the societies in which they live....of course birth control plays a factor in all this, however it is not the only one and neither does religion play a dominant role in the causes of Famine or Family sizes.....it is primarily one of a social, economic and political issues rather than a religious ones.

So, no my version of events doesn't differ from everyone else's, it just differs from those who really don't know what they are talking about. Trying to turn the thread into some joke and personal attack on me or at my expense says more about you than it does me.
 
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I'm all on for the live and let live thing as mentioned earlier. It always seems to be the 'get rid of religion' folks that seem to be the intolerant crowd. To balance that I don't agree with some of the extreme practices of Christians (especially the mad ones in USA). The bible mentions an instruction to spread the 'word' to others. I'm happy to share beliefs with work colleagues if the conversation comes up but I won't be constantly nagging folk that 'believe or die'!
 
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